{"id":8881,"date":"2009-02-02T23:01:34","date_gmt":"2009-02-02T20:01:34","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.turkishforum.com.tr\/en\/content\/?p=8881"},"modified":"2023-04-06T16:09:11","modified_gmt":"2023-04-06T13:09:11","slug":"support-jack-lang-liberty-for-history","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/2009\/02\/02\/support-jack-lang-liberty-for-history\/","title":{"rendered":"SUPPORT JACK LANG &amp; &#8220;LIBERTY FOR HISTORY&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 10pt; line-height: normal; text-align: center; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-outline-level: 3;\" align=\"center\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 13.5pt; color: black; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman';\"> <\/span><\/strong><strong><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;\">(Note:<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\"> <\/span>My thanks to https:\/\/armenians-1915.blogspot.com\/2009\/01\/2729-armenian-tuggery-intimidation-in.html<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\"> <\/span>site for bringing this information to my knowledge.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\"> <\/span>I am covering this issue as a gesture of support to Jack Lang, the courageous French politician who saw through the Armenian falsifications and bogus genocide claims and dared to change his position on the genocide claims.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\"> <\/span>I believe his example will provide a most educational paradigm of how truth eventually wins over propaganda.) <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;\">Below, please find Jack Lang\u2019s speech , 11 October 2008, Blois, France,<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\"> <\/span>which instantly attracted the poison arrows of a stunned Armenian lobby.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\"> <\/span>Strident articles, nasty letters, and vitriolic internet posts<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\"> <\/span>poured from major Armenian lobbyists (and their ethocidal friends),<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\"> <\/span>quickly labeling this brave man a revisionist and a denialist,<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\"> <\/span>as well as calling him many choice names (some of which are not repeatable here but others like the following are:<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\"> <\/span>inconsistent, self-indulgent, felon, Judas, heinous negationist (?), scandalous, cynical, coward, shamed and dishonored France, insulted the values of humanism, etc., etc.) <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Calibri;\">It is interesting to note that Jack Lang had signed the preface to the book &#8220;the news of the genocide of Armenians&#8221; published by the CDCA in October 1999; one more reason not to trust the information presented in Armenian books.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\"> <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;\">Armenians questioned Lang\u2019s alleged cynicism in his support of France\u2019s<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\"> <\/span>Gayssot law which criminalizes denial of Jewish and Gypsy genocides.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\"> <\/span>Armenian fail to understand the difference:<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\"> <\/span>the Jewish Holocaust is a fact supported by a court verdict (Nuremberg); Armenian genocide is an allegation, not supported by any court verdict and a much contested and discredited allegation at that.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\"> <\/span>All Armenians have are a bunch of hearsay, forgeries, exaggerations, embellishments, and distortions, none of which help explain the Armenian propaganda, agitation, raids, terror, rebellions, treason, territorial demands, and the civil war all of this translated into causing half a million Muslim dead, mostly Turkish, in that order, between 1890 and 1921. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Calibri;\">TERESET (temporary resettlement of 1915) is one frame in the 1890-1921 film.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\"> <\/span>TERESET was a home security measure that was caused by the Armenian rebellions and treason during a time of war.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\"> <\/span>None of this has anything to do with extermination of a people nor can it be explained by the term genocide.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\"> <\/span>Genocide claims are political, not factual.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\"> <\/span>Human suffering was universal and caused by all sides;<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\"> <\/span>selecting favorite victims out of this lot and ignoring the suffering of the rest is cruel, unethical, and inhuman.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\"> <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;\">Historians are best equipped to deal with the complexities of controversial history and they must be allowed full access to archives to do their jobs properly.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\"> <\/span>Turkey opened her archives two decades ago and more than 80,000 scholars have used them since.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\"> <\/span>The Republic of Armenia (Yerevan) , various Armenian churches (Istanbul, Etchimiadzin, Jerusalem, Mekhitarists, and more) and Armenian political associations<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\"> <\/span>(ARF, ANA, etc. in Boston, Glendale, etc.) and institutions (Zorian, Gomidas, etc.) need to open their archives and provide full access to scholars.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\"> <\/span>Turkey propsed in 2005 establishment of a historians commission to study<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\"> <\/span>the matter but Armenian declined.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\"> <\/span>The solution must be seen through more research, dialog, review, and debate; not less.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\"> <\/span>Memory laws destroy freedom of speech on these issues and replace history scholarship with political partisanship.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Calibri;\">Therefore, I salute<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\"> <\/span>jack Lang for his visionary and courageous stand in the matter of Turkish-Armenian conflict during WWI and for supporting more liberty, not less, for history.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\"> <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;\">SPEECH BY MR JACK LANG, 11 OCTOBER 2008, BLOIS, FRANCE <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;\">&#8220;I turn a word about who we meet, I do not at all exhausted in a few words, and I am surrounded at the moment of eminent specialists who have worked, and then in the room Similarly there are great historians intervene.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\"> <\/span>Some words in bulk, I am not prepared to talk, a few words to say in bulk at the heart of this discussion is freedom, freedom of thought, freedom to seek, freedom to discover, freedom to ask questions.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\"> <\/span>Freedom &#8230; and it is both a conviction and a temperament.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\"> <\/span>I believe that in all matters relating to intelligence, art, creation, freedom must be the principle, sometimes even absolute, and we cannot make exceptions or conditions may, in certain circumstances perfectly defined, freedom of thought, including forgiveness may be politically incorrect, including think evil.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\"> <\/span>If we do not recognize the right to think, think evil, then the point is freedom. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;\">I will not think badly of course, everyone has their beliefs, values, but at the same time it should, except within certain limits, and unfortunately to propose a topic or question you are going to discuss, what we believe that by reasoning or by intuition or emotion or because we are citizens of that time, the law on the Holocaust and the denial of the Holocaust must be respected as such? Why, how? And why are we reserved, if not hostile to other acts of proclamation and especially to other criminal laws related to historical facts? <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;\">I take a concrete example to move forward, so I do not answer the question that I ask, it will be in the debates. To move forward a little in my question, I take the example of Armenia. It is that myself, so I have to say the truth as it should, I passed the first resolution of the National Assembly on the recognition, in quotes, can we say, because it is also necessary that historians do their work, the Armenian genocide. I voted because I thought it was an act of moral and repair history, and given the absolute refusal of the Turkish government to accept any discussion, any debate on this subject, it seemed to me the French National Assembly could perform this act. I do not know if I react the same way today, but in any case I have voted. And at the time, I was chairman of the Foreign Affairs Committee of the National Assembly, so I am doubly guilty, if I may say, MP and chairman of the Foreign Affairs Committee.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\"> <\/span>However, I am prepared with force against the second law on Armenia, already at that time I committed a crime, vis a vis the instructions of my own group, I refused to vote as a text monstrous. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;\">It allows the prosecution against historians, against persons, against citizens, against journalists, who would undertake to discuss, reflect on the magnitude, the reality on the forms of killing (there were massacres ) of Armenians committed by the Turkish armed. <span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\"> <\/span>Yes, he must speak clearly, those who voted it did not at all a kind of moral commiseration, not at all a kind of attachment to a story. They did so simply by electoral concerns, thinking and raise the voice of the Armenian community of France, who deserves our respect.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\"> <\/span>But at the same time, the duty of a senior politician, a member of Parliament, a minister, is to carry out its mandate with courage and conviction, and to resist any pressure whatsoever.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\"> <\/span>And the consequence of this vote absurd, unacceptable to the National Assembly, was in Turkey itself, I participated as a guest professor of the Bilgi University in Istanbul, we were able to convene a committee of Historians mixed Turkish and Armenian, was a first, which had agreed to meet, discuss, think to compare their views, discuss their assessments. And this vote was such that it echoes blocked temporarily, this work is essential to understand, to know the historical reality in the region. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;\">***<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;\">SUPPORT JACK LANG AGAINST ARMENIAN INTIMIDATION AND THREATS<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;\">Please send your message of encouragement in English to Jack Lang via email at: <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;\">jlang@assemblee-nationale.fr <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Calibri;\"><span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\"> <\/span>and\/or <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Calibri;\"><span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\"> <\/span>jacklang62@wanadoo.fr<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;\">or by Fax to: + 03 21 30 91 22 <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;\">Your support is not only for a politician who is intimidated and terrorized by Armenians, but also, perhaps even more so,<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\"> <\/span>for an idea: \u201cliberty for history\u201d\u2026 <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;\">***<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>(Note: My thanks to https:\/\/armenians-1915.blogspot.com\/2009\/01\/2729-armenian-tuggery-intimidation-in.html site for bringing this information to my knowledge. I am covering this issue as a gesture of support to Jack Lang, the courageous French politician who saw through the Armenian falsifications and bogus genocide claims and dared to change his position on the genocide claims. I believe his example will [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":83,"featured_media":782298,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[464],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-8881","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-ergun-kirlikovali"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8881","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/83"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=8881"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8881\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/782298"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=8881"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=8881"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=8881"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}