{"id":8205,"date":"2008-12-19T00:28:18","date_gmt":"2008-12-18T21:28:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/?p=8205"},"modified":"2023-04-05T11:50:08","modified_gmt":"2023-04-05T08:50:08","slug":"petition-seeks-to-smash-turkish-taboo-over-armenian-massacre","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/2008\/12\/19\/petition-seeks-to-smash-turkish-taboo-over-armenian-massacre\/","title":{"rendered":"Petition seeks to smash Turkish taboo over Armenian massacre"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"storyhead\">\n<h4><\/h4>\n<h4 class=\"lastupdated clearfix\"><em>Last Updated:   Tuesday, December 16, 2008 |  3:24 PM ET <\/em><span id=\"socialhead\" class=\"d-inline\"><span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/arts\/media\/story\/2008\/12\/16\/turkey-petition.html?ref=rss#socialcomments\">Comments<em>8<\/em><\/span><span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/arts\/media\/story\/2008\/12\/16\/turkey-petition.html?ref=rss#\">Recommend<em>26<\/em><\/span><\/span><\/h4>\n<h5 class=\"byline\"><span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/news\/credit.html\">CBC News<\/span><\/h5>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"storybody\">\n<p>A group of 200 Turkish intellectuals is tackling one of the great taboos of Turkish society \u2014 the 1916 massacres of Armenians in the country.<\/p>\n<p>A group of writers, journalists and academics, many of them prominent members in their fields, has posted an online apology for the killings and invited ordinary Turks to sign it.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;My conscience does not accept that [we] remain insensitive toward and deny the Great Catastrophe that the Ottoman Armenians were subjected in 1915,&#8221; reads the apology, posted online on Monday.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"pullq\"><p><strong>&#8216;Many djinns are out of their bottle, and many taboos are becoming public and people are freely discussing them.&#8217;<\/strong><em>\u2014Cengiz Aktar, professor at Istanbul&#8217;s Bahcesehir University<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&#8220;I reject this injustice, share in the feelings and pain of my Armenian brothers, and apologize to them.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The apology stops short of using &#8220;genocide&#8221; to describe the massacres because use of the word would be &#8220;extremely counterproductive,&#8221; according to Cengiz Aktar, one of the authors of the petition.<\/p>\n<p>More than 6,200 ordinary Turks had signed the petition as of Tuesday morning, when Aktar, a professor of European union studies at Istanbul&#8217;s Bahcesehir University, spoke with CBC&#8217;s <em>Q<\/em> cultural affairs program.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;We have not had the opportunity to talk about these horrible things in the last 92 years and we told ourselves maybe we will offer a forum to the ordinary Turks to apologize, to make their conscience talk,&#8221; Aktar said.<\/p>\n<p>The treatment of Armenians in Turkey has been such a taboo that Nobel Prize-winning author Orhan Pamuk faced prosecution after he said in an interview that a million Armenians had died.<\/p>\n<p>Aktar&#8217;s friend, the Armenian journalist and editor Hrant Dink, was shot and killed last year after being prosecuted over his comments about the massacre.<\/p>\n<p>But Aktar insists there have been changes in Turkish society and attitudes that encouraged the intellectuals, who range across the political spectrum, to come forward.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;When I had the idea of starting an online petition, I had the feeling, this feeling that there is something in the heart and minds of the Turks regarding these events. And it doesn&#8217;t necessarily correspond what the Turkish state is telling them the past 90-plus years,&#8221; he said.<\/p>\n<h3>&#8216;Taboos becoming public&#8217;<\/h3>\n<p>Turkey has been reforming itself in an effort to join the European Union, and reforms implemented in 2002 and 2004 &#8220;are conducive for a freer environment and a more worldly culture, and we are now collecting the fruits of that,&#8221; Aktar said.<\/p>\n<p>He said he was partly motivated by the killing of his friend, Dink, but also by Turkey&#8217;s increasing openness.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Many djinns are out of their bottle, and many taboos are becoming public and people are freely discussing them,&#8221; he said.<\/p>\n<p>One potential benefit would be fewer attempts at censorship of journalists or writers who mention that period of history.<\/p>\n<p>Using the word &#8220;genocide&#8221; might have polarized the issue and made it less likely that ordinary people would take notice, Aktar said.<\/p>\n<p>The government has not responded to the petition, though the two ruling nationist parties have condemned it.<\/p>\n<p>However, Turks themselves seem interested and each signature on the petition makes it more likely that the government will have to respond in some way, he said.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I would dream of sizable figure by end of year to give the world a very strong message,&#8221; Aktar said.<\/p>\n<p>Historians estimate that, in the last days of the Ottoman Empire, up to 1.5 million Armenians were killed by Ottoman Turks.<\/p>\n<p>Armenians, including many in the diaspora spread across Europe and North America, have long pushed for the deaths to be recognized.<\/p>\n<p>Turkey and Armenia recently have taken steps toward repairing ties, with President Abdullah Gul becoming the first Turkish leader to visit Armenia this September.<\/p>\n<p>There are also steps being taken to reopen the border between the two countries, closed since 1993, when Turkey protested Armenia&#8217;s occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh.<\/p>\n<p><cite class=\"source\"><em>With files from Q, Associated Press<\/em><\/cite><\/div>\n<ul id=\"socialtools\" class=\"clearfix d-block\">\n<li class=\"l\"><span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/arts\/media\/story\/2008\/12\/16\/turkey-petition.html?ref=rss#socialcomments-submit\">\n<div class=\"cmt-h\">Post a comment<\/div>\n<div><em>8<\/em>Comments have been posted<\/div>\n<p><\/span>\u00a0<\/li>\n<li class=\"r\"><span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/arts\/media\/story\/2008\/12\/16\/turkey-petition.html?ref=rss#\">\n<div class=\"rec-h\">Recommend this story<\/div>\n<div><em>26<\/em>People have recommended this story<\/div>\n<p><\/span>\u00a0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<div class=\"storytools\">Story Tools: E-MAIL | PRINT |  Text Size: S M L XL | <span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/news\/feedback\/index_typo.html?\">REPORT TYPO<\/span> | <span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/news\/feedback\/index.html?\">SEND YOUR FEEDBACK<\/span><\/div>\n<div id=\"articlecomments\" class=\"d-block\">\n<h4 class=\"icon\">Story comments (<em>8<\/em>)<\/h4>\n<div id=\"cmt-sort-wrapper\"><span>Sort:<\/span> <span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/arts\/media\/story\/2008\/12\/16\/turkey-petition.html?ref=rss#\">Most recent<\/span> | <span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/arts\/media\/story\/2008\/12\/16\/turkey-petition.html?ref=rss#\">First to last<\/span> | <span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/arts\/media\/story\/2008\/12\/16\/turkey-petition.html?ref=rss#\">Most recommended<\/span><\/div>\n<div id=\"cmt-wrapper\" class=\"clearfix\">\n<div class=\"comment clearfix\">\n<div class=\"clearfix\"><span><strong><span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/membercentre\/ViewMember.aspx?u=8542098\"><em>A Alfredo<\/em><\/span> wrote:<\/strong>Posted 2008\/12\/17<br \/>\nat 1:25 PM ET<\/span><span class=\"r\">This apology is a good step in the right direction and I applaud the brave men and women who have spearheaded this initiative. Turkey must honestly and openly address its past, in order to move forward and to help heal old wounds.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>They can never fully make up for the horrors that Ottoman Turks perpetrated on their Armenian citizens, but there is no point in continuing to deny a truth that festers under the surface of Turkish society.<\/p>\n<p>The truth will set you free.<\/p>\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"cmd clearfix\"><span><span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/arts\/media\/story\/2008\/12\/16\/turkey-petition.html?ref=rss#\"><strong>2<\/strong><em>People<\/em><em>recommended<\/em><em>this comment<\/em><\/span><\/span><span class=\"r\"><span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/arts\/media\/story\/2008\/12\/16\/turkey-petition.html?ref=rss#\"><em>2<\/em>Recommend this comment<\/span> <span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/arts\/media\/story\/2008\/12\/16\/turkey-petition.html?ref=rss#\">Report abuse<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"comment odd clearfix\">\n<div class=\"clearfix\"><span><strong><span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/membercentre\/ViewMember.aspx?u=8394397\"><em>Fan wu ren<\/em><\/span> wrote:<\/strong>Posted 2008\/12\/17<br \/>\nat 7:18 AM ET<\/span><span class=\"r\">esseff\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m not saying that you are wrong about the atrocities.<\/p>\n<p>Turkey invaded the island in 1974. Why? Because Nicos Sampson, a former EOKA Terrorist staged a coup. Shortly afterwards, the G Cypriots started to massacre the T Cypriots. The invasion was to protect the T Cypriot minority population<\/p>\n<p>I lived there also. I lived in the Buffer Zone, between the Greek Cypriot and Turkish armies. I was an intelligence officer in the Army on a UN mission. I saw both sides. Studied the history and the current situation every day. I don&#8217;t pretend to know everything, but I&#8217;m pretty well informed and impartial. I saw pictures on both sides and a whole lot of real stuff also.<\/p>\n<p>Neither side is innocent and both sides are guilty.<\/p>\n<p>In my view, Turkey doesn&#8217;t need to apologize for the invasion and occupation of the island.<\/p>\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"cmd clearfix\"><span><span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/arts\/media\/story\/2008\/12\/16\/turkey-petition.html?ref=rss#\"><strong>2<\/strong><em>People<\/em><em>recommended<\/em><em>this comment<\/em><\/span><\/span><span class=\"r\"><span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/arts\/media\/story\/2008\/12\/16\/turkey-petition.html?ref=rss#\"><em>2<\/em>Recommend this comment<\/span> <span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/arts\/media\/story\/2008\/12\/16\/turkey-petition.html?ref=rss#\">Report abuse<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"comment clearfix\">\n<div class=\"clearfix\"><span><strong><span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/membercentre\/ViewMember.aspx?u=8189786\"><em>esseff<\/em><\/span> wrote:<\/strong>Posted 2008\/12\/17<br \/>\nat 1:34 AM ET<\/span><span class=\"r\">Fan wu ren:\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>I have photographs to prove what I am saying&#8230; not what the propaganda says. I taught there for a year&#8230; it&#8217;s not twenty-five years&#8230;. but it&#8217;s an entire year. In fact, I sell a couple of photographs in my shop. I would post them but they won&#8217;t allow links here.<\/p>\n<p>In the end, I am not confused.<\/p>\n<p>The Greeks did some very nasty stuff there (as you pointed out). They are no angels. I have first-hand experience in Nicosia and was treated that way.<\/p>\n<p>Let me put it to you this way: I had a conversation with a fellow music prof. It ended with me saying to her: &#8220;I&#8217;m Canadian.. and I don&#8217;t hate Germans anymore.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"cmd clearfix\"><span><span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/arts\/media\/story\/2008\/12\/16\/turkey-petition.html?ref=rss#\"><em>Recommend<\/em><em>this comment<\/em><\/span><\/span><span class=\"r\"><span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/arts\/media\/story\/2008\/12\/16\/turkey-petition.html?ref=rss#\"><em> <\/em>Recommend this comment<\/span> <span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/arts\/media\/story\/2008\/12\/16\/turkey-petition.html?ref=rss#\">Report abuse<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"comment odd clearfix\">\n<div class=\"clearfix\"><span><strong><span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/membercentre\/ViewMember.aspx?u=8412998\"><em>SapereAude<\/em><\/span> wrote:<\/strong>Posted 2008\/12\/16<br \/>\nat 6:19 PM ET<\/span><span class=\"r\">Uh, why not post a link to the petition while you&#8217;re at it, CBC?<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"cmd clearfix\"><span><span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/arts\/media\/story\/2008\/12\/16\/turkey-petition.html?ref=rss#\"><strong>2<\/strong><em>People<\/em><em>recommended<\/em><em>this comment<\/em><\/span><\/span><span class=\"r\"><span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/arts\/media\/story\/2008\/12\/16\/turkey-petition.html?ref=rss#\"><em>2<\/em>Recommend this comment<\/span> <span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/arts\/media\/story\/2008\/12\/16\/turkey-petition.html?ref=rss#\">Report abuse<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"comment clearfix\">\n<div class=\"clearfix\"><span><strong><span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/membercentre\/ViewMember.aspx?u=8394397\"><em>Fan wu ren<\/em><\/span> wrote:<\/strong>Posted 2008\/12\/16<br \/>\nat 5:48 PM ET<\/span><span class=\"r\">esseff ; You are confused. EOKA was a Cypriot (ethnic Greek Cypriot) terrorist group. The concept of ENOSIS was to unify Cyprus with the Greece, the ethnic brethern or the Greek Cypriots.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>There are also ethnic Turk Cypriots.  Who were of course the victims of EOKA, but so were the occupying British Forces.<\/p>\n<p>There has been plenty of atrocities to go around on Cyprus. Turks to Greek Cyriots and vice versa. Centuries of hatred and atrocity make for interesting politics until today.<\/p>\n<p>Since the Turkish invasion of the island in 1974 and subsequent partition of the island, things have been largely stable. Thanks in large measure to the UN force there.<\/p>\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"cmd clearfix\"><span><span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/arts\/media\/story\/2008\/12\/16\/turkey-petition.html?ref=rss#\"><strong>2<\/strong><em>People<\/em><em>recommended<\/em><em>this comment<\/em><\/span><\/span><span class=\"r\"><span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/arts\/media\/story\/2008\/12\/16\/turkey-petition.html?ref=rss#\"><em>2<\/em>Recommend this comment<\/span> <span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/arts\/media\/story\/2008\/12\/16\/turkey-petition.html?ref=rss#\">Report abuse<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul id=\"cmt-paginator\">\n<li class=\"commentsNavPrev_off\"><span>Previous<\/span><\/li>\n<li class=\"page\"><span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/arts\/media\/story\/2008\/12\/16\/turkey-petition.html?ref=rss#socialcomments\">1<\/span><\/li>\n<li class=\"page\"><span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/arts\/media\/story\/2008\/12\/16\/turkey-petition.html?ref=rss#socialcomments\">2<\/span><\/li>\n<li class=\"commentsNavNext\"><span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/arts\/media\/story\/2008\/12\/16\/turkey-petition.html?ref=rss#articlecomments\">Next<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Last Updated: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 | 3:24 PM ET Comments8Recommend26 CBC News A group of 200 Turkish intellectuals is tackling one of the great taboos of Turkish society \u2014 the 1916 massacres of Armenians in the country. 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