{"id":59590,"date":"2012-11-23T09:28:17","date_gmt":"2012-11-23T07:28:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/?p=59590"},"modified":"2023-04-06T00:26:32","modified_gmt":"2023-04-05T21:26:32","slug":"turkey-carpet-buying-at-istanbuls-grand-bazaar","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/2012\/11\/23\/turkey-carpet-buying-at-istanbuls-grand-bazaar\/","title":{"rendered":"Turkey: Carpet buying at Istanbul&#8217;s Grand Bazaar"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Inside Istanbul&#8217;s Grand Bazaar. Photo \/ Simon Winter<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;My friend, Kia Ora. I have a cousin living in New Zealand. Come in and have some tea. There is no pressure to buy&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>Ha, ha, ha. &#8220;No pressure to buy&#8221;. Tea and rugs&#8230; it sounds so inviting. Welcome to the carpet market at Istanbul&#8217;s Grand Bazaar.<\/p>\n<p>Step inside the rug seller&#8217;s den however, and there&#8217;s a new reality. You&#8217;re no longer wandering in the carpet bazaar. You&#8217;re now in a rug shop, caged and about to be set upon in a style which, for the uninitiated, can be extremely intimidating. Make no mistake, these guys are pros &#8211; at manipulation, persuasion and doing a deal.<\/p>\n<p>In many cases, they&#8217;re also son con artists. After hours reading all sorts of horrors stories on internet forums, where clueless victims vent about paying $10,000 for a $300 rug &#8220;and how can I get our money back?&#8221;, we ventured into the Grand Bazaar.<\/p>\n<p>Of course there is much more there to bargain for than just carpets, so we agreed. On the first day no entering, just looking. When my extremely risk-averse partner said, &#8220;Lets go inside&#8221; to the second carpet seller that approached us ( I glanced at her in shock), I&#8217;m filled with fear, mixed with excitement of the unknown.<\/p>\n<p>We&#8217;ve just stepped on the roller coaster.<\/p>\n<p>So in we go&#8230; and the small talk begins. Then the designs, sizes, patterns, shapes, the education&#8230; and finally, the tea.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Would you like some apple tea?&#8221; the man asked. Ten minutes in, like thousands before us, we&#8217;ve been sucked in, surrounded by half-a-dozen assistants and more than a dozen rugs covering the floor. In fact we&#8217;re blocked. The charm offensive is in full flow and though technically we can walk out at anytime, in reality few do. It&#8217;s impolite&#8230; and besides, the best part&#8217;s about to start!<\/p>\n<p>No prices have been discussed but because we&#8217;re thrifty backpackers we choose a 1 metre by 1.5m adornment from &#8220;eastern Turkey&#8221;, painstakingly woven over many hours, with a tight thread, authenticated blah, blah, blah. It&#8217;s the smallest rug in the room. There are many disapproving looks.<\/p>\n<p>We sit down. Still no price. So I ask: &#8220;What&#8217;s the price for this one?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The response: &#8220;Here is your tea.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Our salesman talks about New Zealand. He has a &#8220;friend&#8221; who works in a Turkish restaurant in Wellington. He used to be a rug seller. Then the details become vague.<\/p>\n<p>I sip my cold apple tea. In sweltering Istanbul it tastes good. There are seven people staring at us. Still no price. So I ask again. And this time it comes. 4500 lira.<\/p>\n<p>In my head, time stops. First thought: &#8220;What the ****? That&#8217;s over \u20ac2000.&#8221; To my right, where my partner sits, there is silence.<\/p>\n<p>My body temperature has soared, momentary panic. The guy wants a response. Our rug budget did have a &#8220;2&#8221; in front of it. Hmmm.<\/p>\n<p>I can hear another voice in my head, the one from the internet forums. &#8220;Welcome to the game, Sonny.&#8221; I offer my response: &#8220;We don&#8217;t have any jobs&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>He cuts the price in half &#8211; 2250 lira, still over \u20ac1000. He can&#8217;t go much further, he says.<\/p>\n<p>I feel trapped. Our price is so low &#8211; it&#8217;s an embarrassment to offer. He wants a price. Then a squeak from my right. Is Lisa making a bid? &#8220;We don&#8217;t want to disrespect you,&#8221; she says.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;No disrespect,&#8221; the seller says. &#8220;This is business. You make me price.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>She whispers to me, &#8220;I think we should leave.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The seller turns the heat. &#8220;You no leave, you make price. What is your price?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Whatever happened to &#8220;no pressure to buy?&#8221; A price seems our only way out. His is 2500 lira. I make the offer: 500 lira. It&#8217;s my top (and only) price. Air in the room evaporates.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s clearly offensive. There&#8217;s wounded looks everywhere and we&#8217;ve wasted this poor man&#8217;s time. He&#8217;s muttering. He wanted \u20ac2000, we&#8217;ve offered barely 200.<\/p>\n<p>We make to leave.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Wait&#8221;, he says. &#8220;I go see my boss&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>More tea. Five minutes later the rug is ours &#8211; if we want it.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Inshallah&#8221; comes the voice of this new man. &#8220;Inshallah.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Sometimes you must help those less well off,&#8221; he tells us. &#8220;I can see you people are good. I hope you will tell New Zealand people all about us.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>In &#8220;business&#8221;, only one thing means more to carpet sellers than their beloved rugs &#8211; cash, preferably in the hand. For every rug sold to paupers like us, half-a-dozen victims are sucked into paying way over the odds. It all evens out &#8211; in the sellers&#8217; favour.<\/p>\n<p>The boss pushes again: &#8220;We have deal, yes&#8221;?<\/p>\n<p>Maybe our rug is a great bargain but it doesn&#8217;t feel right. An authentic 2000 euro rug the owner&#8217;s willing to sell for 200? Are these guys that cheeky? I just don&#8217;t believe him.<\/p>\n<p>I tell the man we&#8217;ll be back but know we won&#8217;t. Was our carpet really from eastern Turkey? And should I have bargained lower &#8211; what would he have taken? The answer is, I don&#8217;t know the first thing about carpets.<\/p>\n<p>The ignorance and romanticism of those venturing into the carpet bazaar allows the locals to thrive. No doubt I would have loved my Turkish rug (or Chinese rug or whatever it was), with much regaling of this story down the years.<\/p>\n<p>But, in the end, I&#8217;ll probably love a fluffy imported number from Briscoes on the lounge floor just as much.<\/p>\n<p>Simon Winter is a former nzherald.co.nz news editor. He and partner Lisa have been backpacking through Europe since April.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; nzherald.co.nz<\/p>\n<p>By Simon Winter<\/p>\n<p>via Turkey: Carpet buying at Istanbul&#8217;s Grand Bazaar &#8211; Travel &#8211; NZ Herald News.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Inside Istanbul&#8217;s Grand Bazaar. Photo \/ Simon Winter &#8220;My friend, Kia Ora. I have a cousin living in New Zealand. Come in and have some tea. There is no pressure to buy&#8221;. Ha, ha, ha. &#8220;No pressure to buy&#8221;. Tea and rugs&#8230; it sounds so inviting. Welcome to the carpet market at Istanbul&#8217;s Grand Bazaar. 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