{"id":29477,"date":"2010-12-21T08:32:51","date_gmt":"2010-12-21T06:32:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.turkishforum.com.tr\/en\/content\/?p=29477"},"modified":"2023-04-06T16:04:09","modified_gmt":"2023-04-06T13:04:09","slug":"armenian-issue-and-al-jazeera-broadcast","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/2010\/12\/21\/armenian-issue-and-al-jazeera-broadcast\/","title":{"rendered":"ARMENIAN ISSUE AND AL JAZEERA BROADCAST"},"content":{"rendered":"<div><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;\"><strong>Armenian claims of genocide are based on a dishonest and racist  interpretation of history<\/strong><\/span><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;\">Iste,<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;\">Iste Al-Jazeera yayini:<\/span><\/div>\n<div>\n<div><span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/english.aljazeera.net\/programmes\/rizkhan\/2010\/12\/20101216133234301716.html \"><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;\"><\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;\">Verdigim yanit da asagidadir.<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;\">Ergun KIRLIKOVALI<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;\">TURKISH FORUM DANISMA KURULU<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-29478\" title=\"ergunk\" src=\"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/ergunk.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"120\" height=\"136\" \/><br \/>\n<\/span><\/div>\n<div>\n<hr \/>\n<\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;\"><\/p>\n<div>&#8212;&#8211; Original Message &#8212;&#8211;<\/p>\n<div><strong>From:<\/strong> <a title=\"outbind:\/\/216-00000000498BCE5B4E5A7D448E4D3EEA7629DD9FE48F5900\/ ergun@cox.net\">Ergun<\/a><\/div>\n<div><strong>To:<\/strong> <a title=\"outbind:\/\/216-00000000498BCE5B4E5A7D448E4D3EEA7629DD9FE48F5900\/ riz@aljazeera.net\">riz@aljazeera.net<\/a><\/div>\n<div><strong>Sent:<\/strong> Monday, December 20, 2010 1:15 PM<\/div>\n<div><strong>Subject:<\/strong> Armenian viewpoint is based on a dishonest and racist  interpretation of history<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><strong>Armenian claims of genocide are based on a dishonest and racist  interpretation of history<\/strong><\/div>\n<div><strong> <\/strong><\/div>\n<div><strong> <\/strong><\/div>\n<div>\n<div>The facts are clear:\u00a0 Armenians took up arms against their own government.  After a millennium of harmonious cohabitation, Armenians, thus, resorted to  revolts, terrorism, and supreme treason, making territorial demands and causing  countless Muslim\/Turkish casualties, all of which triggered the TERESET  (temporary resettlement of 1915). These are the plain facts.<\/p>\n<p>These facts  contradict with the embellished and falsified Armenian narrative, which in turn,  creates &#8220;cognitive dissonance&#8221; in Armenian people. This psychological trauma can  be resolved in two ways:<\/p>\n<p>1) accept the facts and change your attitude  accordingly, or<\/p>\n<p>2) ignore\/dismiss the facts and demonize all dissenters.<\/p>\n<p>Most Armenians, unfortunately, seem to choose the latter, hence no  closure after a century.<\/p><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: #800000;\">BIAS IN THE TERM \u201cARMENIAN GENOCIDE\u201d <\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: #800000;\">If one cherishes values like fairness, objectivity,  truth, and honesty, then one should really use the term\u00a0 \u201cTurkish-Armenian  conflict\u201d. <\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: #800000;\">Asking one \u201cDo you accept or deny Armenian Genocide\u201d  shows anti-Turkish bias.\u00a0 The question should be re-phrased: \u201cWhat is your stand  on the Turkish-Armenian conflict?\u201d <\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: #800000;\"> Turks believe it was an inter communal warfare mostly  fought by Turkish and Armenian irregulars, a civil war which is engineered,  provoked, and waged by the Armenian revolutionaries, with active support from  Russia, England, France, and others, all eyeing the vast territories of the  collapsing Ottoman Empire, against a backdrop of a raging world war. <\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: #800000;\"> Armenians, on the other hand, totally\u00a0 ignoring  Armenian agitation, raids, rebellions, treason, territorial demands, and Turkish  victims killed by Armenians, unfairly claim that it was a one way genocide. <\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: #008000;\">GENOCIDE ALLEGATIONS IGNORE \u201cTHE SIX T\u2019S OF THE  TURKISH-ARMENIAN CONFLICT\u201d <\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: #008000;\">While some in unsuspecting public may be forgiven for  taking the blatant and ceaseless Armenian propaganda at face value and believing  Armenian falsifications merely because they are repeated so often, it is  difficult and painful for someone like me, the son of Turkish survivors on both  maternal and paternal sides. <\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: #008000;\">Those seemingly endless \u201cWar years\u201d of 1912-1922  brought wide-spread death and destruction on to all Ottoman citizens. No Turkish  family was left touched, mine included. Those nameless, faceless Turkish victims  are killed for a second time today with politically motivated and baseless  charges of Armenian genocide. <\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">ALLEGATIONS OF ARMENIAN GENOCIDE ARE RACIST AND\u00a0  DISHONEST\u00a0 HISTORY <\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">They are racist because they ignore the Turkish dead:  about 3 million during WWI; more than half a million of them at the hands of  Armenian nationalists. <\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">And the allegations of Armenian genocide are dishonest  because they simply dismiss<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">the six T\u2019s of the Turkish-Armenian  conflict:<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">1) TUMULT (as in numerous Armenian armed uprisings  between 1882 and 1920) <\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">2) TERRORISM (by well-armed Armenian nationalists and  militias victimizing Ottoman-Muslims between 1882-1920) <\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">3) TREASON (Armenians joining the invading enemy armies  as early as 1914 and lasting until 1921) <\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">4) TERRITORIAL DEMANDS (where Armenians were a  minority, not a majority, attempting to establish Greater Armenia, the would-be  first apartheid of the 20th Century with a Christian minority ruling over a  Muslim majority ) <\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">5) TURKISH SUFFERING AND LOSSES (i.e. those caused by  the Armenian nationalists: 524,000 Muslims, mostly Turks, met their tragic end  at the hands of Armenian revolutionaries during WWI, per Turkish Historical  Society. This figure is not to be confused with about 2.5 million Muslim dead  who lost their lives due to non-Armenian causes during WWI. Grand total: more  than 3 million, according to Prof. Justin McCarthy.) <\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">6) TERESET (temporary resettlement) triggered by the  first five T\u2019s above and amply documented as such; not to be equated to the  Armenian misrepresentations as genocide.) <\/span><\/div>\n<div>VERDICT WITHOUT DUE PROCESS AMOUNTS TO LYNCHING<\/div>\n<div>Those who take the Armenian \u201callegations\u201d of genocide at face value seem to  also ignore the following:<\/div>\n<div>1- Genocide is a legal, technical term precisely defined by the U.N. 1948  convention (Like all proper laws, it is not retroactive to 1915.)<\/div>\n<div>2- Genocide verdict can only be given by a &#8220;competent court&#8221; after &#8220;due  process&#8221; where both sides are properly represented and evidence mutually cross  examined.<\/div>\n<div>3-\u00a0 For a genocide verdict, the accusers must prove \u201cintent\u201d at a  competent court and after due process.\u00a0 This could never be done by the  Armenians whose evidence mostly fall into five major categories:\u00a0 hearsay,\u00a0  mis-representations, exaggerations, forgeries, and \u201cother\u201d.<\/div>\n<div>4- Such a &#8220;competent court&#8221; was never convened in the case of  Turkish-Armenian conflict and a genocide verdict does not exist\u00a0 (save a  Kangaroo court in occupied Istanbul in 1920 where partisanship, vendettas, and  revenge motives left no room for due process.)<\/div>\n<div>5-\u00a0 Genocide claim is political, not historical or factual.\u00a0 It reflects  bias against Turks. Therefore, the\u00a0 term genocide must be used with the  qualifier &#8220;alleged&#8221;, for scholarly objectivity and truth.<\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: #800080;\">HISTORY IS A MATTER OF\u00a0 SCHOLARSHIP, NOT\u00a0  CONSENSUS<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: #800080;\">History is not a matter of &#8220;conviction, consensus,\u00a0  political resolutions, political correctness, or propaganda.&#8221; History is a  matter of research, peer review, thoughtful debate, and honest scholarship. Even  historians, by definition, cannot decide on a genocide verdict, which is  reserved for a &#8220;competent court&#8221; with its legal expertise and due process. <\/span><\/div>\n<div>POLITICAL\u00a0 LYNCHING OF THE TURKS TODAY<\/div>\n<div>What we witness today amounts to lynching of the Turks by Armenians to  satisfy the age old Armenian hate, bias, and bigotry.\u00a0\u00a0 Values like fairness,  presumption of innocence until proven guilty, objectivity, balance, honesty, and  freedom of speech are stumped under the fanatic Armenian feet.\u00a0 Unprovoked ,  unjustified, and unfair defamation of Turkey, in order to appease nagging  Armenian activists runs counter to human rights , if not also western interests.<\/div>\n<div>Those who claim genocide verdict today, based on the much discredited  Armenian evidence, are actually engaging in &#8220;conviction and execution without  due process&#8221;, th dictioanry definition of lynching.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div>Sincerely,<\/div>\n<div>Erg\u00fcn KIRLIKOVALI<br \/>\nPresident-Elect, ATAA<br \/>\n(Address and  phones)<\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><em>PS: <\/em><\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><em>I welcome any live debate anytime with any Armenian\u00a0or  sympathizers of a bogus genocide. <\/em><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><em>By the way, Turkish  identity is doing very well,\u00a0thank you. <\/em><\/span><\/span><br \/>\n<\/span><\/div>\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p><input id=\"gwProxy\" type=\"hidden\" \/><input id=\"jsProxy\" onclick=\"if(typeof(jsCall)=='function'){jsCall();}else{setTimeout('jsCall()',500);}\" type=\"hidden\" \/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Armenian claims of genocide are based on a dishonest and racist interpretation of history Iste, Iste Al-Jazeera yayini: Verdigim yanit da asagidadir. Ergun KIRLIKOVALI TURKISH FORUM DANISMA KURULU &#8212;&#8211; Original Message &#8212;&#8211; From: Ergun To: riz@aljazeera.net Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 1:15 PM Subject: Armenian viewpoint is based on a dishonest and racist interpretation of [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":83,"featured_media":782298,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[464],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-29477","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-ergun-kirlikovali"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/29477","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/83"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=29477"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/29477\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/782298"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=29477"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=29477"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=29477"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}