{"id":25267,"date":"2010-11-11T08:36:03","date_gmt":"2010-11-11T06:36:03","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.turkishforum.com.tr\/en\/content\/?p=25267"},"modified":"2014-01-05T21:52:27","modified_gmt":"2014-01-05T19:52:27","slug":"turkey-pakistan-parallelsor-not-tim-ferguson-oceans-away-forbes","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/2010\/11\/11\/turkey-pakistan-parallelsor-not-tim-ferguson-oceans-away-forbes\/","title":{"rendered":"Turkey-Pakistan Parallels\u2026Or Not &#8211; Tim Ferguson &#8211; Oceans Away &#8211; Forbes"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Could Turkey\u2019s blossoming as an Islamic entrepreneurial society be a model for troubled Pakistan? Or have been?<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-25269\" src=\"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/11\/Ataturk-Inonu-Bayar.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"198\" \/>The thought is raised in a recent posting by Elmira Bayrasli of New York, who promotes microcapitalism. I got to thinking about this when she asked Pervez Musharraf, at his appearance at the Council on Foreign Relations this week, about his deep study of Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, founder of modern Turkey. What had that taught him about the role of Pakistan\u2019s military\u2013which Musharraf headed before he opted also to head the state? In Turkey as well, the military\u00a0 has had a mixed history but these days remains the guardians of\u00a0 Ataturk\u2019s secular state even as a maturing democracy favors a more Muslim cast.<\/p>\n<p>Musharraf\u2019s reply, which Bayrasli told me later she found \u201ccompletely disingenuous,\u201d was that \u201cchange can\u2019t be imposed on a society over time.\u201d\u00a0 He suggested\u2013at least as I heard him\u2013 that creeping (or leaping) Islamicization of Turkey under Recep Tayyip Erdogan is undoing much of what Ataturk attempted to establish.<\/p>\n<p>The story is yet to play out in Turkey. Erdogan and elements of the military have had brushes, and the prime minister is alleged to be intimidating other opponents from the old establishment, including the Dogan media family. But the economy is perking along, and democracy is still the seeming order of business. Which, if Musharraf patterned Pakistan\u2019s military after Turkey\u2019s, as was Bayrasli\u2019s premise, ought to suggest a better outcome for Pakistan. Unless, of course, General Musharraf didn\u2019t live up to that standard. Or, as he prefers to see it, Pakistan has been the ongoing victim of various other malefactors.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Could Turkey\u2019s blossoming as an Islamic entrepreneurial society be a model for troubled Pakistan? Or have been? The thought is raised in a recent posting by Elmira Bayrasli of New York, who promotes microcapitalism. I got to thinking about this when she asked Pervez Musharraf, at his appearance at the Council on Foreign Relations this [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":83,"featured_media":25269,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[193],"tags":[4259],"class_list":["post-25267","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-pakistan","tag-ataturk-features"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/25267","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/83"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=25267"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/25267\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/25269"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=25267"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=25267"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=25267"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}