{"id":21950,"date":"2010-09-13T04:47:02","date_gmt":"2010-09-13T02:47:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.turkishforum.com.tr\/en\/content\/?p=21950"},"modified":"2023-04-05T10:46:42","modified_gmt":"2023-04-05T07:46:42","slug":"the-situation-of-the-armenians-by-one-who-was-among-them","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/2010\/09\/13\/the-situation-of-the-armenians-by-one-who-was-among-them\/","title":{"rendered":"The situation of the Armenians: By one who was among them"},"content":{"rendered":"<h2><\/h2>\n<p>By Hj Pravitz, <em>Nya Dagligt Allehanda,<\/em> 23 April, 1917<\/p>\n<p>Hj Pravitz takes a deeper look at the statements that had previously been made  by Mrs. Marika Stjernstedt, in <em>Nya Dagligt Allehanda<\/em>, a Swedish Newspaper  published in the period 1859-1944.<\/p>\n<p>By Hj Pravitz, <em>Nya Dagligt Allehanda,<\/em> 23 April, 1917<\/p>\n<p>Hj Pravitz takes a deeper look at the statements that had previously been made  by Mrs. Marika Stjernstedt, in <em>Nya Dagligt Allehanda<\/em>, a Swedish Newspaper  published in the period 1859-1944.<\/p>\n<p>*******************<br \/>\n&#8220;Recently  returned home from abroad I have right now &#8211; i.e. somewhat  late &#8211; had the  opportunity to look at two Swedish booklets on the  Armenian issue. &#8220;Sven  Hedin &#8211; adelsman&#8221; [Sven Hedin a nobility], by  Ossiannilsson and  &#8220;Armeniernas fruktansv\u00e4rda l\u00e4ge&#8221; [the terrible  situation of the  Armenians], by Marika Stjernstedt. The former book  went immediately in the  waste basket. In all its poorly hidden  appreciation of the title character, it  annoyed me more than a main  article in Dagens Nyheter. The latter, which seemed  spirited by the  compassion for the suffering Armenians, I have read repeatedly,  and it  is really this and its inaccuracies that my article is about.<\/p>\n<p>I  dare to claim, that hardly any other Swede has had the opportunity like  me,  to thoroughly and closely study the misery among the Armenians,  since I now for  about a month have traveled right among all the  emigrating poor people. And  this, during the right time, fall 1915,  during which the alleged brutalities,  according to both writers, were  particularly bad.<\/p>\n<p>I want to hope, that what I am describing  below, which are my own experiences,  will have the purpose to remove  the impression of inhumanity and barbarity from  the Turkish and German  side, which is easily induced by the reading of the two  booklets  mentioned above.<\/p>\n<p>If I understand the contents of the books  correctly, both writers want to  burden the Turks as well as the Germans  with deliberate assaults or even  cruelties.<\/p>\n<table border=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\" align=\"right\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>My position as an  imbedded eyewitness gives me the right and duty to  protest against such claims,  and the following, based on my  experiences, will support and strengthen this  protest.<\/p>\n<p>Despite  the fact that I was and am such a pronounced friend of Germany and its   allies, which is consistent with the position of a servant of a neutral   country, I started my journey from Konstantinopel (Istanbul) through  the Asian  Turkey, with a certain prejudiced point of view, partly  received from American  travelers,  about the persecution of the Armenians by their Turkish masters. My   Lord, which misery I would see, and to which cruelties I would be a  witness!  And although my long service in the Orient has not convinced  me that the  Armenians, despite their Christianity, are any of God&#8217;s  best children, I  decided to keep my eyes open to see for myself to  which extent the rumors about  Turkish assaults are true and the  nameless victims were telling the truth.<\/p>\n<p>I sure got to view misery, but planned cruelties? Absolutely nothing.<\/p>\n<p>This is precisely why it has appeared to me to be necessary to speak up.<\/p>\n<p>To start with, it is unavoidable to state, that a transfer of the  unreliable  Armenian elements from the northern parts of the Ottoman  Empire to the south  was done by the Turkish government due to  compulsory reasons.<\/p>\n<p>It should have been particularly important  to remove, from the Erzeroum  district, all these settlers, who only  waited for a Russian invasion to join  the invading army against the  hated local legal authority. When Erzeroum fell  in February 1916, an  Armenian, with whom I just shared Russian imprisonment,  uttered  something I interpreted as &#8216;It would have fallen way earlier if we had   been allowed to stay.&#8217; That a country like Turkey, threatened and  attacked by  powerful external enemies, is trying to secure itself  against cunning internal  enemies, no one should be able to blame her.<\/p>\n<p>I think it points to a misconception when one claims that the Armenians  are  living under the uninterrupted distress of some sort of Turkish  slavery. There  are peoples that have it worse. Or what about Indian  Kulis and Bengalis under  British rule, and the Persian nationalists in  Azerbaijan under the Russians&#8217; &#8211; &#8220;penetration pacificue&#8221;, and the  Negroes in Belgian Congo, and the  Indians in the Kautschuk district in  French Guyana. All these, not to mention  many others, seem to me, are  victimized to a higher degree and more permanently  than the Armenians. I  guess technically, one can say that a longer lasting but  milder  persecution is less bearable to endure than a bloody but quick act of   despotism, as in (Ottoman) assaults of the kind that from time to time  put  Europe&#8217;s attention on the Armenian issue. Apart from these  periodical so-called  massacres, the reason of which could to a large  degree be ascribed to the Armenians  themselves, I do think that the  (Armenians) are treated reasonably well.<\/p>\n<p>The (Armenians) have their own religion, their own language, both in speaking  and writing, their own schools etc.<\/p>\n<p>As far as the much discussed major Armenian migration is concerned, I  am the  first to agree that the attempts of the Turkish side to reduce  the difficulties  of the refugees left a lot to be desired. But I  emphasize again, in the name of  fairness, that considering the  difficult situation in which Turkey, as the target   of attack from three powerful enemies, was in and it was, in my  opinion, almost  impossible for the Turks, under these circumstances, to  have been able to keep  up an orderly assistance activity.<\/p>\n<p>I  have seen these poor refugees, or &#8220;emigrants&#8221;, to use Tanin&#8217;s  words,  seen them closely. I have seen them in the trains in Anatolia, in oxen   wagons in Konia and elsewhere, by foot in uncountable numbers up in the  Taurus  mountains, in camps in Tarsus and Adana, in Aleppo, in  Deir-el-Zor and Ana.<\/p>\n<p>I have seen dying and dead along the roads  &#8211; but among hundreds of thousands  there must, of course, occur  casualties. I have seen childrens&#8217; corpses,  shredded to pieces by  jackals, and pitiful individuals stretch their bony arms  with piercing  screams of &#8220;ekmek&#8221; (bread).<\/p>\n<p>But I have never seen direct  Turkish assaults against the ones hit by destiny.  A single time I saw a  Turkish gendarme in passing hit a couple of slow moving  people with  his whip; but similar things have happened to me in Russia, without  me  complaining, not then, nor later.<\/p>\n<p>In Konia, there lived a  French woman, Madame Soulie, with family and an Italian  maid. They  lived there, despite the war, and the Turks did them no harm. And as   far as the Germans stationed in the town are concerned, she called them  &#8216;our angels.&#8217;  &#8216;They give all they have to the Armenians!.&#8217; Such  evidence of German readiness  to sacrifice I established everywhere the  Germans were.<\/p>\n<p>In Aleppo, I lived by the Armenian Baron, the  owner of a large hotel. He did  not tell me about any Turkish cruelties,  although we talked a lot about the  situation of his fellow citizens.  We also talked about Djemal Pasha, who would  come the day after  and with whom I would meet. Baron expressed himself very  positively  about this man, who by the way, least of all seemed like an   executioner.<\/p>\n<p>In Aleppo, I hired an Armenian servant, who then  during a couple of months was  my daily company. Not a word has he told  me about Turkish cruelties, neither in  Aleppo nor in his home town of  Marash or elsewhere. I must unconditionally  believe in exaggerations  from Mrs. Stjernstedt&#8217;s side and I do not put one bit  of confidence in  the Armenian authorities she claims to refer to.<\/p>\n<p>On page 44,  Mrs. Stjernstedt writes about (the town of) Meskene and an Armenian   doctor Turoyan. I was in Meskene right when he was supposed to have been  there.  I looked carefully around everywhere for historical landmarks,  since Alexander  the great crossed the Euphrates (river) here, and the  old testament also talks  about this place. There was not a sign of  Armenian graves and not of any  Armenians either, except for my just  mentioned servant. I consider Mr.  Turayan&#8217;s evidence very questionable,  and I even dare to doubt that this man,  if he exists, was ever there  during the mentioned time. If the conditions in Meskene  really were as  he claims, will anyone then believe that the suspicious Turks  would  have sent an Armenian up there with a &#8220;mission from the  government&#8221;?<\/p>\n<p>For fourteen days, I followed the Euphrates; it is completely out of  the  question that I during this time would not have seen at least some  of the  Armenian corpses that, according to Mrs. Stjernstedt&#8217;s  statements, should have  drifted along the river en masse at that time. A  travel companion of mine, Dr.  Schacht, was also travelling along the  river. He also had nothing to tell when  we later met in Baghdad.<\/p>\n<p>In summary, I think that Mrs. Stjernstedt, somewhat uncritically, has  accepted  the hair-raising stories from more or less biased sources,  which formed the  basis for her lecture.<\/p>\n<p>By this, I do not want  to deny the bad situation for the Armenians, which  probably can  motivate the collection initialized by Mrs. Stjernstedt.<\/p>\n<p>But I  do want to, as far as it can be considered to be within the powers of an   eyewitness, deny that the regular Turkish gendarme forces, who  supervised the  transports, are guilty of any cruelties.<\/p>\n<p>Later  on, in a different format, I want to impartially and neutrally like now   treat the Armenian issue, but at the moment, may the adduced be enough.<\/p>\n<p>R\u00e4ttvik, April 1917<\/p>\n<p>HJ Pravitz.<\/p>\n<p><input id=\"gwProxy\" type=\"hidden\" \/><input id=\"jsProxy\" onclick=\"if(typeof(jsCall)=='function'){jsCall();}else{setTimeout('jsCall()',500);}\" type=\"hidden\" \/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>By Hj Pravitz, Nya Dagligt Allehanda, 23 April, 1917 Hj Pravitz takes a deeper look at the statements that had previously been made by Mrs. Marika Stjernstedt, in Nya Dagligt Allehanda, a Swedish Newspaper published in the period 1859-1944. 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