{"id":18702,"date":"2010-04-24T08:44:41","date_gmt":"2010-04-24T06:44:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.turkishforum.com.tr\/en\/content\/?p=18702"},"modified":"2023-04-06T13:36:22","modified_gmt":"2023-04-06T10:36:22","slug":"24-nisan-new-yorkta-ermeni-yalanlarina-son-miting-bu-cumartesi-12-3-00-arasi","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/2010\/04\/24\/24-nisan-new-yorkta-ermeni-yalanlarina-son-miting-bu-cumartesi-12-3-00-arasi\/","title":{"rendered":"SAY NO TO ARMENIAN LIES!!!"},"content":{"rendered":"\n
NEWYORKDAKI ARKADASLAR LUTFEN BU GUN OLACAK OLAN GENC TURKLERIN SOZDE SOYKIRIMI TELIT GIRISIMINE TIMES SQUARE’ DE KATILARAK DESTEK VERINIZ<\/p>\n\n\n\n
ASAGIDA DANISMA KURULU UYEMIZ DR. ROBERT B. MCKAY’S (TURK BOB) YAPACAGI KONUSMADAN OZET NOTLARI BULACAKSINIZ<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Turkish Forum Advisory Board Member<\/strong> Robert B. McKay, Ph. D.<\/strong> In support<\/strong> Of<\/strong> THE YOUNG TURKS OF AMERICA<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n
50 years ago my wife and I traveled to Turkey.\u00a0 We lived there for 5 years as teachers at the Tarsus American College, Tarsus, Turkey.\u00a0 Finding artifacts going back to 2500 B.C. opened our eyes to aspects of history that never seemed real in a sterile classroom on the rolling hills of my college, University of Connecticut.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
While teaching in Turkey, one of the many issues that interested me were the world events of 1915 as they affected Turkey and the actions that surrounded them.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
However if we take 1915 out of context we do not see the relentless, persistent and predicable deaths that the Armenians have inflicted on their neighbors: Jews, Kurds, Turks, Azeries, and all others who might disagree with them.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n
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TIMES SQUARE RALLY, NEW YORK CITY<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n
A flow of history which shows a uniform and consistent pattern of atrocities by the Armenians would be the following 3 periods<\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n\n
1915 through WWI Armenian Russian conspiracy<\/li>\n\n\n\n
1980\u2019s Armenians begin worldwide assassinations: Ambassadors and politicians<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n
they didn\u2019t like. The FBI credited Armenia with 25% of international terrorism in the USA.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
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1992\u2014In the Nagorno=Karabakh region of Azerbaijan Armenian and Russian<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n
forces kill 400,000 Azaries leaving 1,000,000 (IDP\u2019s) International Displaced<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Persons in Azerbaijan.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Period I<\/strong><\/h1>\n\n\n\n
Let\u2019s talk about 1915 through WWI. It is well documented that Russia wished the demise of Ottoman Turkey and wanted access to oceans. During this period Armenians living in the Ottoman Empire flocked to join Russian forces attacking the Ottomans from their eastern flank. The Armenian Russian forces and guerilla forces with the Ottoman Empire blow up post offices, cut lines of communication and caused the Ottomans to move up to 400,000 troops from the southern flank to protect the Armenian Russian threat. There were massacres and atrocities of equal magnitude on both sides. Bones found in Turkish soil are both ethnically Turkic and Armenian. However, today after all these years Armenians, mostly those living in the United States, claim that the Ottomans committed a genocide: as a side note the term genocide was never used until it had political importance long after WWII.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
In brief your concern with the topic is appreciated, but telling only the pro-western\/Christian side of the story is not appreciated. In the minds of many scholars, writers and politicians, the Armenian perspective is wrong! There are, in fact, two sides.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Please note that a preponderance of scholars and politicians do not accept the genocide concept. Interestingly the highest ranking Armenian, Hovhannes Katchaznouni<\/strong>, the first Prime Minister of the new independent Armenian Republic in 1923 did not accept the concept of genocide.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
a) Dr. Katchaznouni in his report to the Dashnaq Party\u2019s 1923 Congress clearly accepts Armenian responsibility for the tragedy that befell his country. \u201cWe (Armenians) caused this tragedy. Turks knew what they were doing (and) the (Ottoman Turkish) deportation (of Armenians) was right and necessary\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n
This report has been hidden from researchers for years, however since being uncovered it has been published in a brief 125 page book titled \u201cDashnagtzoutiun Has Nothing to Do Anymore\u201d, Kaynak Yayinlari (Kaynak Press) pps. 125.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
b) The Malta Tribunal, held by England, immediately after WWI and initiated by the Armenian interest could not convict a single Ottoman military officer or politician of<\/p>\n\n\n\n
genocide and\/or war crimes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
c) U.S. Admiral Bristol, commander of the Sixth Fleet and later first Ambassador to the new Republic of Turkey (post WWI) traveled the country extensively and reported no genocide.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
d) Ambassador Elekdar went to England to intensively study a document produced by the English called the \u201cBlue Book\u201d. The Ambassador has shown that most of the the documents were either fraudulently written or slanted so as to draw England into WWI.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ambassador Elekdar subjected himself to scholars from around the world on his findings. He has not been refuted.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
For brevity it is fair to say that the key scholars and leaders of the early 1900\u2019s did not attribute a genocide to the Ottoman Turks.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Period II<\/strong><\/h1>\n\n\n\n
During the 1980\u2019s Armenians, who never at any time in the history of the Ottoman Empire had never had sovereignty over even a single square inch of the Anatolian peninsula were beginning to push for land claims and reparation based upon a made up genocide claim.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
During this time the Turkish archives were open to scholars. No one has ever found a single note or sentence regarding a government policy of eliminating or getting rid of Armenians.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Armenia would never open its archives. In order to prevent conflicting view the Armenians began a worldwide campaign of assassinating ambassadors and others who disagreed with them. In fact at one point during this period the FBI identified Armenia as being responsible for 25% of international terror casualties in the U.S.A.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Period III<\/strong><\/h1>\n\n\n\n
In 1992 interest in oil drive an Armenian Russian genocide of Azeris. As in Period I (1915) Armenians are pawns of Russia. They can only act with Russian consent.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
However since the early 1800\u2019s those people of the Transcaucuses: Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan have been under the control of Russia. The Armenians more than the others, have been willing to be the pawns of Russian geo-political interests.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
In the 1990\u2019s Russia had decided that the oil rich region of Nagorno-Karabakh would be an autonomous section of Azerbaijan even though it had a high % of Armenians living there.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
However, the Armenians living in this Nagorno Karabkh region of Azerbaijan began killing any Azari that lived there. In the village of Khojaly (about 7000 people) the Armenians killed every man, woman and child. The Russian 366th<\/sup> Regiment participated.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
The result was that by 1992 Armenians were responsible for killing 400,000 people and leaving over 1,000,000 International Displaced Persons (IDP\u2019s) in Azerbaijan. Where is the popular media outrage? Where is the political outrage?<\/strong> These events are contemporary.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
As background information let\u2019s remember that Armenia today is about the same population as Connecticut, slightly over 3 million. Ten years ago the Armenian population was almost double that of today. For economic reasons, Armenians are relocating around the world, a large percentage to Turkey.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
In Conclusion<\/p>\n\n\n\n
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The long term actions of Armenia as an aggressor pawn of Russia lends credibility to the Turkish claims that there was no genocide.<\/li>\n\n\n\n
There is no doubt that more ethnic Turks died than ethnic Armenians,<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n
(International Red Cross figures state that more than 25% of all ethnic Turks died<\/p>\n\n\n\n
as a result of war, massacres, diseases and starvation.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n
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There never was an Ottoman policy to exterminate Armenians.<\/li>\n\n\n\n
Ottoman Turks failed in World War I in large part because Armenian\/Russian<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n
forces diverted their capabilities to the eastern part of the empire.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
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At the beginning of the century Armenians were pawns of Russian attempts to<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n
gain seaports. Armenia thought part of the Ottoman Empire would be given to<\/p>\n\n\n\n
them.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
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Later in the century (1992) Armenia was a pawn of Russian oil interests.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n
Again Russia gets oil, Armenia expands its borders into Azerbaijan.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
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Armenian Russian killings in Azerbaijan are 400,000 dead and 1,000,000 IDP\u2019s.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n
Where is the outrage by the media and U.S. politicians?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
The U.S. Congress considered H. Res. 252 which is in conflict with historical facts and severely distorts history. Furthermore, this resolution will harm U. S. Turkish relations and the Armenian-Turkish normalization process for years to come.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
It will also harm Islam Christian trust for centuries around the world. Alliances between Muslim and Christian countries will be less likely. Certainly Turkish treaties with American backed Israel will be much less enthusiastically viewed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Based on historical facts, the real question is why would the United States wish to inflict insults and injuries to its friends, the Turks, and ignore the recent Armenian atrocities in Azerbaijan and around the world.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n
YOUNG TURKS DERNEGI [gencturklerdernegi@gmail.com]<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Young Turks-Gen\u00e7 T\u00fcrkler Derne\u011fi\u2019mizin d\u00fczenleyece\u011fi \u201cErmeni Yalanlar\u0131na Son ve \u015eehitlerimizi Anma\u201dMitingi, 24 Nisan 2010 Cumartesi g\u00fcn\u00fc 12.00 pm ile 3.00 pm aras\u0131nda yapilacaktir<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n
Sizden ricamiz: sizleri ve dernek uyelerini aramizda gormek istiyoruz.Bu Milli Davaya SAHIP CIKALIM………………….<\/p>\n\n\n\n
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Amerikadaki T\u00fcrk Toplumumuzun birlik ve beraberlik i\u00e7inde Ermeni Yalanlar\u0131na Hay\u0131r diyerek, milli davas\u0131na sahip \u00e7\u0131kmas\u0131 gerekti\u011fini belirten Tekman, ger\u00e7ekleri t\u00fcm d\u00fcnya kamuoyunun bilmesinin \u015fart oldu\u011funu s\u00f6zlerine ekledi. 24 Nisan g\u00fcn\u00fcn\u00fcn T\u00fcrk bayragi alt\u0131nda toplan\u0131p,beraberce tek bir y\u00fcrek ve tek bir yumruk olarak hareket etme g\u00fcn\u00fc oldu\u011funu ifade eden Tekman, Ba\u015fkan Obama\u2019n\u0131n ,Ermenistana verece\u011fi mesajtan \u00f6nce mitingin yap\u0131lmas\u0131n\u0131n \u00f6nemine dikkat \u00e7ekti.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
S\u00f6zde soyk\u0131r\u0131m tasar\u0131s\u0131n\u0131n komitede kabul edilmesinden sonra,Ermeni Diasporas\u0131n\u0131n g\u00fc\u00e7 kazanarak,iyice \u015fimartildi\u011fini dile getiren Tekman, T\u00fcrkler \u00fczerindeki bask\u0131n\u0131n daha da artt\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 , i\u00e7 ve d\u0131\u015f d\u00fc\u015fmanlar\u0131n her t\u00fcrl\u00fc engellemelerine ra\u011fmen,New York Polis Departman\u0131ndan, b\u00fcy\u00fck \u00e7abalarla iznin al\u0131nd\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 belirtti.Ba\u015fkan Yard\u0131mc\u0131s\u0131 Cenk Coktosun\u2019nun kat\u0131lacak dernekler ile temasta oldu\u011funu ve New York \u00e7evresinde ya\u015fayan vatanda\u015flar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n 24 Nisan mitingine kat\u0131lmas\u0131 i\u00e7in b\u00fcy\u00fck \u00e7aba sarfedildi\u011fini a\u00e7\u0131klad\u0131. TASFO dahil olmak uzere, yakla\u015f\u0131k 20ye yak\u0131n derne\u011fimizin deste\u011fi var diyen Tekman, Ermenilerin tarih boyunca T\u00fcrklere ve Azerilere yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 insanl\u0131k d\u0131\u015f\u0131 zulm\u00fc ve katliamlar\u0131, t\u00fcm Amerikan Kamuoyuna izlettireceklerini s\u00f6yledi. \u0130lk defa hi\u00e7 bir yerde yay\u0131nlanmam\u0131\u015f video g\u00f6sterilerinin olaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 belirten Tekman, programa bir cok s\u00fcpriz konu\u015fmaci katilacagini dile getirdi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Kurucu Ba\u015fkan Tekman, bu sene kat\u0131l\u0131mc\u0131lar aras\u0131nda, \u00d6zbekistan,Do\u011fu T\u00fcrkistan,T\u00fcrkmenistan,Uygur ve K\u0131r\u0131m T\u00fcrklerininde destek verece\u011fini ve Azerbaycan Milli G\u00fcvenlik Bakanl\u0131\u011f\u0131ndan bir grup yetkilininde programda olaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 belirterek, t\u00fcm vatanda\u015flar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 mitinge bekliyoruz cagrisinda bulundu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ermeni Ter\u00f6r \u00d6rg\u00fct\u00fc ASALA taraf\u0131ndan katledilen diplomatlar\u0131m\u0131z ve aileleri i\u00e7inde sayg\u0131 duru\u015funda da bulunaca\u011f\u0131z diyen Tekman, \u201cS\u00f6zde Ermeni Soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131na Hay\u0131r\u201d ,\u2019Ar\u015fivler A\u00e7\u0131ls\u0131n\u201d, \u2018Yalana Son\u201d gibi bir\u00e7ok pankart\u0131n haz\u0131rland\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 bildirdi<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"
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