{"id":17917,"date":"2010-03-22T01:17:03","date_gmt":"2010-03-21T23:17:03","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.turkishforum.com.tr\/en\/content\/?p=17917"},"modified":"2013-10-13T00:05:38","modified_gmt":"2013-10-12T21:05:38","slug":"uncomfortable-truth-mr-erdogans-unfortunate-threats","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/2010\/03\/22\/uncomfortable-truth-mr-erdogans-unfortunate-threats\/","title":{"rendered":"Uncomfortable Truth ; Mr Erdogan&#8217;s unfortunate threats"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>Re: Uncomfotable Truth &#8211; 18\/03\/2010 as  below.<\/div>\n<div>Dear Editor,<\/div>\n<div>Mr Erdogan&#8217;s unfortunate threats are truly  regrettable\u00a0especially as he does not represent the views of\u00a0most\u00a0Turkish  People. His threats were quickly denied by his own Foreign Secretary Mr  Davutoglu, indicating that this is not part of an Turkish Foreign  Policy agenda. You are right in finding his intervention as demagogic and  disreputable but he is still the same Prime Minister whose reputation and  achievements have been held up as an example of a leader of a moderate Islamic  government by most commentators in\u00a0EU and US until very recently!<\/div>\n<div>Regarding the Armenian genocide claims, this is far from being an  accepted fact and an &#8216;uncomfortable truth&#8217; for Turkey. The claims have been  strongly disputed by hundreds of archives (English, French and Russian) and many  non Turkish and Turkish scholars. By the way the Armenian\u00a0Government refuses to  open its own archives. The real truth\u00a0is that there were awful killings\u00a0and  deaths on both sides due to war, starvation and extreme cold and that in fact  more Turks than Armenians had died tragically during this period. Unfortunately  the powerful Armenian Diaspora continues to distort history and many people are  blind to the obvious facts. Only last year Lord Avebury, along with  Armenian activists were trying to lobby the Turkish Parliament by impressing\u00a0on  them the notorious and discredited &#8216;Blue Book&#8217; and had to be stopped ( details  are available).<\/div>\n<div>We hope that we are all interested in the real truth and that it must  prevail.<\/div>\n<div>Yours faithfully,<\/p>\n<p>Betula Nelson<br \/>\nMedia Relations<br \/>\nThe  Ataturk Society of the UK<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>From The Times<\/div>\n<div>March 18, 2010<\/div>\n<h1>Uncomfortable Truth<\/h1>\n<h2>Turkish threats to expel Armenian migrants to make a political point are  shameful<\/h2>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div>\n<ul>\n<li><span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/www.timesonline.co.uk\/tol\/comment\/leading_article\/article7066163.ece#comment-have-your-say\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">9 Comments<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div><span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/www.timesonline.co.uk\/tol\/comment\/leading_article\/article7066163.ece#none\"><span style=\"color: #999999; font-size: xx-small;\">Recommend? (16) <\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>Deportations have powerful symbolism in modern European history. The notion  that the government of a would-be member state of the EU might propose the  forced collective expulsion from its territory of a specified nationality ought  to be unthinkable. Yet that course was casually threatened yesterday by  Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the Turkish Prime  Minister, against 100,000 Armenian migrants.<\/p>\n<p>Its purported justification was the recent passage of non-binding resolutions  in the US Congress and the Swedish parliament. These motions describe as  genocide the mass killings of Armenians in the Ottoman Empire during and after  the First World War. Turkey takes strong issue with the claim of genocide. The  history and politics of TurkishArmenian relations are convoluted,  but the ethics of Mr Erdogan\u2019s remarks are not. His intervention is  demagogic and disreputable.<\/p>\n<p>The US and Swedish votes were carried by narrow margins and were opposed by  their respective governments. The historical events that they recall began with  the massacres of Armenians in the Ottoman Empire in 1915. The very word  \u201cgenocide\u201d is a post-1945 coinage, intended to define the peculiar barbarity of  Nazism. Only gradually did the Armenian massacres come to be recognised as the  first authentic case of genocide in the 20th century. But so they  were. On conservative historical estimates, around a million Armenians were  killed in a xenophobic purge that continued till 1923. It was a crime without  precedent in modern history.<\/p>\n<p>Historical truth matters. It is extraordinary that the Government of modern  Turkey should resist it. No one alive today was responsible for these  barbarities. They were committed by an imperial power that has long since passed  into history along with Wilhelmine Germany, to which it was allied in the First  World War. While running for the presidency, Barack  Obama declared his intention of being a leader who would speak the  truth about the Armenian genocide. In practice, while his views are  a matter of record, Mr Obama has been conciliatory in relations  with Turkey.<\/p>\n<p>Mr Erdogan has little cause for complaint about the symbolic  diplomacy of resolutions on historical events. He has no justification whatever  for threats against Armenian migrants. Turkey is home to thousands of illegal  immigrants from Armenia. Few would dispute that sovereign nations have the right  to determine barriers to entry on the part of non-citizens, but these are  migrants who have sought refuge from disaster. Forming an impoverished  population that does necessary but low-wage work, they include many whose homes  and livelihoods were destroyed in the Armenian earthquake of 1988. Mr  Erdogan estimated yesterday that of 170,000 Armenians in Turkey,  only 70,000 held Turkish citizenship. He threatened directly to tell the rest to  leave.<\/p>\n<p>Turkey is a member state of Nato and a strategically important  power within the Western alliance. It borders Iraq, in whose stability the  Western democracies have an intense interest. But the Government in Ankara  cannot exploit that status in order to advance its own diplomatic goals at the  expense of liberal values. To object to a proper historical accounting of  awesome crimes is a demeaning and destructive stance. But then to retaliate  against the most vulnerable people within Turkey\u2019s borders is unconscionable.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Re: Uncomfotable Truth &#8211; 18\/03\/2010 as below. Dear Editor, Mr Erdogan&#8217;s unfortunate threats are truly regrettable\u00a0especially as he does not represent the views of\u00a0most\u00a0Turkish People. His threats were quickly denied by his own Foreign Secretary Mr Davutoglu, indicating that this is not part of an Turkish Foreign Policy agenda. You are right in finding his [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":83,"featured_media":43842,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[145,1571,78,120,204,1153,1018,2129],"class_list":["post-17917","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-armenian-question","tag-barack-obama","tag-ahmet-davutoglu","tag-ergenekon","tag-gulen","tag-nagorno-karabakh","tag-politics","tag-recep-tayyip-erdogan","tag-turkey-and-armenia"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/17917","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/83"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=17917"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/17917\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/43842"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=17917"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=17917"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=17917"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}