Re: “Better or worse days for the ATAA?” , by \u0130LHAN TANIR, Friday, February 5, 2010 ; <\/p>\n
Rebuttal by Ergun KIRLIKOVALI<\/p>\n
I thank Mr. Tanir, HDN reporter based in Washington DC, for taking the time to chat with President Evinch and I over the phone on 3 February 2010. That\u2019s a first and I appreciate it. My message was simple and I think he got it: if Hurriyet Daily News (HDN) wishes to cover Turkish-American issues objectively, then HDN should make an effort to talk to Turkish-Americans first, along with others who HDN may see fit. <\/p>\n
The problem with the recent unfortunate HDN coverage arose because HDN reporter in that case failed to get the input of the Turkish-Americans in a matter closely related to them. Had the HDN reporter done so, we would have filled him in on points, that even Mr. Tanir agrees, the previous article missed. I am glad to hear that Mr. Tanir will work closely with us in future to avoid a needless lack of communication. To me, then, this whole unfortunate episode is water under the bridge and we all learned something from it. Chalk it off to experience. <\/p>\n
Having said that, though, I must express my initial reaction to Mr. Tanir’s article as slight disappointment as he seems to have missed what I was trying to emphasize during our telephone conversation. I know he means well so I will not lose any sleep over it, but I would like him to know that I am not against including dissenting points of view in any media, HDN or others. What I am against is including dissenting points of view to the exclusion of my point of view, and the views held by others like myself in our community. <\/p>\n
I can effortlessly pinpoint to many articles published in HDN that directly concern our community–as all Turkish-American relations matter to us–and where the ideas and views presented diametrically clash with those held in our community. I cannot, however, point a single article where ATAA views are solicited, urged, or otherwise presented in response (the jury is still out on this letter you are reading now.) No op-ed, no article, no survey, not anything. .. What is worse, there had been no efforts by HDN to do so, that is , not until my letter to HDN editor crossed Mr. Tanir’s desk. That kind of lopsided coverage at HDN is what I am against, not publishing of dissenting views there. Let’s please make that clear to one and all. <\/p>\n
Maybe Mr. Tanir can be kind enough to explain what he means by \u201c\u2026The ATAA, unfortunately, has not had a good reputation among the Turkish community living in America until recently for its internal fights\u2026\u201d Is not this the kind of sweeping and unfair generalizations that sparked this incident in the first place? <\/p>\n
Just because one group disagreed with another, a common occurrence within all volunteer organizations, shall we stamp “bad reputation nationwide” over the name of that organization? Does Mr Tanir realize that the United States is perhaps the most litigious society on earth and that if he writes off everyone involved in litigation, he would have no one to report on in America? Please, let\u2019s not go overboard with generalizations. <\/p>\n
Then Mr Tanir notes \u201c\u2026 (ATAA) has become mostly a grassroots organization that uses almost all its energy, time and money to fight the Armenian diaspora\u2019s efforts, especially before and during the April 24 fever every year \u2026\u201d Here is another generalization with which I have problems. Perhaps if Mr. Tanir gets to know ATAA better, he would correct himself. <\/p>\n
First, ATAA was founded as a grassroots organization and performed as such through its volunteers nationwide since day one. <\/p>\n
Second, we are not fighting \u201cArmenian diaspora\u2019s efforts\u201d; we are fighting defamation of Turkish culture and heritage and demonization of all things Turkish. Whoever is engaged in such practices, that is with whom ATAA fights. It just so happens that mostly Armenian and Greek Diasporas seem to be engaged in such malicious practices and ATAA has been directing its resources towards those practices. <\/p>\n
Where Mr. Tanir makes probably his gravest mistake is this: \u201c\u2026especially before and during the April 24 fever every year \u2026\u201d That is a clich\u00e9 that is no longer true as the Armenian lobby (not diaspora, lobby) saw to it that the scope and depth of its efforts to defame and demonize Turkey are widened, deepened, and spread over twelve months of a year. I can effortlessly provide you with lists of articles, op-eds, books, panels, meetings, commemorations, services, films, exhibits, and more for each and every month, even week, of the year. So, please, let\u2019s kindly stay away from obsolete clich\u00e9s and sweeping generalizations. <\/p>\n
Mr. Tanir comments \u201c\u2026 when the American administration announces how it considers and words the tragic events that happened to the Armenians during World War I\u2026\u201d This is a typical line that shows indifference that I hear people often say when I visit Turkey. Some have not heard of the Armenian issue; others simply do not understand the gravity of the genocide charges; while most have not read a single book, pro or con, about it. Some even think \u201cWhat\u2019s in a word?\u201d They don\u2019t understand the four-phase Armenian lobby plan (acceptance-apology-reparations-land) to harm and destabilize Turkey. They have no clue that if the U.S. Congress accepts the Armenian falsifications as genocide, then the flood gates open. <\/p>\n
To date, for instance, there are no countries in Asia or Africa and only three in the entire Americas that recognized the alleged genocide, upon intense political pressure by the Armenian lobby. There are 15 countries which recognized the genocide claims in some form in Europe, out of a possible 55 countries. That makes a total of about 20 countries worldwide which recognized the bogus genocide, which in turn, is only about 10% of the world community. So all those books, films, museums, memorials, propaganda, agitation, violent demonstrations, flag burnings, bombings, assassinations, terrorist acts, and persistent lobbying, and more, over almost a century, got Armenians only the 10% of the world. Perhaps not much to write home about, right? <\/p>\n
With US recognition, though, all this can change in a hurry. Pro-genocide countries can reach 80-90% of the United Nations within a few short years. That is how important US President\u2019s approval of genocide is, which, ironically, would make a mockery of the U.S. Congress\u2019 own records because of the following documents, among many others, that clearly refute the Armenian claims of genocide: <\/p>\n
a- \u201cAmerican Military Mission to Armenia\u201d (General Harbord) Report 1920 and the Annex Report Nat. Archives 184.021\/175 \u2013 which does not mention any \u201crace extermination\u201d but, on the contrary, refers to \u201c\u2026refinements of cruelty by Armenians to Muslims\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n
b- Joint U.S. CONGRESS RESOLUTION NO. 192, APRIL 22, 1922 relative to the activities of Near East Relief ending 31 December 1921 which has unanimously resolved that a total of 1,414,000 Armenians were alive (which makes killing of 1.5 million Armenians an impossibility, since the total Armenian population was around 1.5 million at the time.) <\/p>\n
c- George Montgomery, a member of the U.S. delegation at the Paris Conference, had presented a detailed tabulation in 1919, showing a total of 1,104,000 Armenians alive, apart from those who had already immigrated to other countries. <\/p>\n
d- 29 March 1919 report of the Paris Conference subcommittee on atrocities, chaired by the U.S. secretary of State Lansing, lists Armenian losses as \u201c\u2026more than 200,000\u2026\u201d Even this number is exaggerated as they got their information from the Armenian church, not exactly an impartial source. The Turkish Historical Society documented the deaths of 53,000 Armenians using Ottoman police reports field on site, of which number only about 8,400 are reported as victims of massacres. The paragraphs a, b, and c jointly point to the THS number being closer to reality. <\/p>\n
Who, then may have jacked this number of Armenian casualties from the original 54,000 first to 200,000 in March 1919, 600,000 in May 1919 (in a poster created by Armenians) to the current 1.5 million? <\/p>\n
Take a guess! <\/p>\n
Going back to Mr. Tanir’s article, he asserts \u201c\u2026being tied to (genocide) struggle only, in addition to the never-ending internal fights \u2013 until recently \u2026\u201d Another unfounded generalization that totally ignores ATAA\u2019s many excellent programs (please see www.ataa.org ) and uses an unfairly broad brush to paint the only litigation in ATAA\u2019s history of 31 years as \u201cnever-ending\u201d infighting. <\/p>\n
Mr. Tanir states \u201c\u2026narrow-minded and reactionary organization that turned me, along with many others, off over the years\u2026\u201d So a single litigation in 31 years turned him off of ATAA? <\/p>\n
Selfless fight against defamation of all things Turkish by incessantly-hate-cultivating Armenian lobby turned him, along with other journalists off? If Mr. Tanir reads a book by another Turkish journalist, who shall remain nameless for now and whose book I have read last year, about the state of Turkish journalists in America, he would know who is turned off by who. Please, let\u2019s not try to white wash ineptness of some journalists by what ATAA did or didn\u2019t do. I will abstain from giving examples at this time. <\/p>\n
Mr. Tanir claims \u201c\u2026 I was saddened at hearing a point of view that usually would not be expected from a person who will assume an important position representing the Turkish community in America\u2026\u201d This point of view, as you wrongly stated in your article, was not being against publishing dissenting views but it was publishing it at the expense of my views. Journalistic ethics and objectivity require that \u201cBoth sides\u201d of an issue be provided to unsuspecting readers. What is so strange about this? Why stick to one side and ignore the other? <\/p>\n
By the way, if you had your finger on the pulse of our community, you would know how difficult it is, if not impossible, to get an op-ed published in Los Angeles Times, the Boston Globe, and the New York Times. How come these papers, who used to use the qualifier \u201calleged\u201d before the term genocide until late 1990s, all of a sudden \u201cdecided\u201d to forego such practice after intense Armenian pressure? <\/p>\n
NYT would not even publish a paid public announcement by Turkish American scholars and intellectuals in 2002 ruling it \u201cagainst the consensus\u201d. Modern psychology defines the term \u201ccritical thinking\u201d which contradicts the concept of consensus, relegating it to \u201cgroupthink\u201d. <\/p>\n
So, let me get this right: No eyebrows are raised when the big media can censor and HDN can ignore our views, but when we complain about it, HDN reporter becomes \u201c\u2026 saddened at hearing a point of view that usually would not be expected from\u2026\u201d an ATAA leader? Guess who is saddened more. <\/p>\n
Mr. Tanir adds \u201c\u2026I disagreed with his complaining about the H\u00fcrriyet Daily News just because it gives space to different opinions, including opinion pieces that run contrary to the official Turkish state policies in many matter\u2026.\u201d There multiple errors here. <\/p>\n
1) I am not against giving space to different opinions at HDN; I am against doing this at the expense of our views being ignored. Big difference, right? I tried to explain this many times during our chat. For good measure, I am also making it a matter of record here. <\/p>\n
2) About \u201c\u2026including opinion pieces that run contrary to the official Turkish state policies\u2026\u201d, I guess we need to get Mr. Tanir sensitized a little bit with your loose descriptions. They may sadden and disappoint us, but more importantly, they can get him in trouble. ATAA is an American institution with American citizens as members. It is illegal to promote the interests of a foreign government in America without registering as a lobbyist first. By sloppily implying that ATAA promote official (Turkish) state positions , Mr. Tanir is implying we are unregistered lobbyists, not volunteers educating the Americans on Turkish culture and promoting better understanding between Turkey and America. We, as ATAA and Turkish Americans, have absolutely no say on Turkish state policies, nor do we always with all of them. If you read my articles (and there are quite a few) you will realize that I even criticize Turkish government from time to time. Please, try to be more meticulous with your sweeping characterizations. <\/p>\n
Mr. Tanir concludes with \u201c\u2026ATAA tries to do better work and I am ready to give the group the benefit of the doubt, even if I disagree sharply with some of its perspectives\u2026\u201d Would Mr. Tanir please tell us what those perspectives are with which he disagrees? I am very curious. <\/p>\n
Mr. Tanir, while I appreciate your time spent with me and President Evinch, I must say I am disappointed with the obsolete clich\u00e9s, sweeping generalizations, and sloppy implications you felt you had to include. <\/p>\n
Most Armenians and their sympathizers disagree with the Turkish position on the historical controversy surrounding the interpretation of Ottoman-Armenian history and that is understandable. But none of this means that the Turks, Turkish-Americans, and ATAA are advocating against these people. To make such interpretation is to grossly misunderstand the nature and value of free speech in the United States. <\/p>\n
To censor contra-genocide views on account that they may suggest revision to history is also misguided and against America\u2019s core values. It suggests that there is a widely accepted version of what truth shall be, a \u201cgroupthink\u201d, about issues that need further research and debate, sort like legislation of scholarship which in itself is a disturbing notion. Freedom of expression is at the core of everything and we must all practice what we preach. It is a far greater evil to stunt debate and curtail free speech (as big media in America frequently attempt to do in our case) than it is to advocate for a broader interpretation of any controversy. <\/p>\n
After all, History is not a matter of belief, convictions, or gut feelings; it is a matter of research, peer review, debate, and revision to include the emerging truth. History of 100 years ago, or 50 years ago, or even 10 years ago is continually changing with every bit of new archives opened or exposed, every new document \u201cdeclassified\u201d, every information placed in circulation after being held secret. Revision, if done scholarly and properly, is not only good, but required for a vibrant society. <\/p>\n
The ability to explore and discuss controversial issues in a reasoned, civilized, and scholarly manner is one of the things that make the Turkish American community a rich and vibrant place. I hope to reach a future phase fast where we can understand each other better. <\/p>\n
I find our exchange thoughtful, considerate, and very useful. So, by all means, Mr. Tanir should please keep in touch. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"
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