{"id":15557,"date":"2009-10-20T17:38:32","date_gmt":"2009-10-20T15:38:32","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.turkishforum.com.tr\/en\/content\/?p=15557"},"modified":"2023-07-26T11:49:47","modified_gmt":"2023-07-26T08:49:47","slug":"turkey-exposed","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/2009\/10\/20\/turkey-exposed\/","title":{"rendered":"Turkey Exposed:"},"content":{"rendered":"<h1>Cannot  Pretend to be<\/h1>\n<h1>Both Pro-Israeli and  Pro-Palestinian<\/h1>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-15558\" title=\"SASSUN-2\" src=\"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/SASSUN-23.jpg\" alt=\"SASSUN-2\" width=\"300\" height=\"327\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/SASSUN-23.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/SASSUN-23-275x300.jpg 275w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Publisher, The California  Courier<\/p>\n<p>Playing the skillful political games of their Ottoman  predecessors, Turkey\u2019s current masters present their country under various  guises &#8212; as European and Middle Eastern, Islamic and secular, pro-Arab and  pro-Israeli.<\/p>\n<p>It now appears that the end is near for at least one of  these Turkish charades. Israeli officials have finally awakened from their  prolonged coma to discover that their erstwhile \u201cstrategic partner\u201d is far more  hostile than their Arab enemies.<\/p>\n<p>For a long time, Turkish leaders have been calling the  Israelis all sorts of unsavory names and accusing Israel of committing barbaric  acts, crimes against humanity, and genocide. Strangely, Israel has shown little  indignation, even in the face of persistent racist and anti-Semitic outbursts by  large segments of the Turkish public.<\/p>\n<p>The latest display of Turkish hostility was the exclusion  of Israel from a multinational military exercise which was to start in Turkey on  October 12. In protest, the United States, Italy and Holland pulled out of these  maneuvers, causing their cancellation. In a move designed to further irritate  the Israelis, Turkey announced that it would instead hold joint military  exercises with Syria, Israel\u2019s main adversary.<\/p>\n<p>Turkey\u2019s Prime Minster Rejeb Erdogan told the Anatolia  Press Agency last week that he had banned Israel from the military drill in  response to the wishes of the Turkish public. \u201cTurkey does not take orders from  anyone in regards to its internal affairs,\u201d Erdogan boasted. Some Turkish  officials indicated that the ban was instituted because the Israeli jets  assigned to the exercise had participated in the Gaza bombings earlier this  year.<\/p>\n<p>This episode marks a major escalation of the  long-standing Turkish bitterness towards Israel. For the first time, the Turkish  military joined the civilian government in adopting an anti-Israeli position.  Furthermore, Turkey went beyond mere verbal condemnation to taking concrete  action. For years, the Israeli government was willing to swallow insults from  Turkish officials, as long as its Air Force was permitted to make practice runs  in the vast Turkish airspace, shared intelligence, and sold military hardware to  Turkey.<\/p>\n<p>Making matters worse, Israelis were deeply offended by  the broadcast of a Turkish show on state TV last week, depicting graphic scenes  of Israeli soldiers killing Palestinian children and committing other  atrocities.<\/p>\n<p>Israel\u2019s Foreign Minister  Avigdor Lieberman reacted by summoning the Turkish ambassador and accused Turkey  of inciting hatred against Israelis. Lieberman stated that not even Israel\u2019s  enemies would air such a hostile TV series. Israel\u2019s Deputy Prime Minister  Silvan Shalom urged Turkey \u201cto come to its senses.\u201d Another Israeli official  stated: \u201cWe  need to stop accepting the Turkish dictates and humiliations. It is  inconceivable that they should insult us at every opportunity, and we should  continue to hold our tongues.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Israel\u2019s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu categorically  rejected any future mediating role for Turkey in talks with Syria. An unnamed  \u201csenior Israeli official\u201d was quoted by Haaretz as stating that the strategic  ties with Turkey may \u201chave simply ended.\u201d Meanwhile, the Jerusalem Post quoted  some Israeli defense officials as stating that \u201cadvanced weapons sales to Turkey  would now be reviewed.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>There were also widespread calls last week for the  Israeli public to boycott Turkish resorts. National Public Radio (NPR) reported  that Israel\u2019s largest labor union would no longer plan for thousands of its  workers organized tours of Turkey, and would direct them to go instead to Greece  and Bulgaria. Since January, there has been a 47% drop in the number of Israelis  spending their vacations in Turkey, according to Time magazine. An Israeli  coffee shop chain expressed its displeasure by announcing that it would no  longer serve Turkish coffee to its customers. In an unprecedented move, several  Israeli cabinet ministers declared that they would turn down the Turkish  Embassy\u2019s invitation to attend Turkey\u2019s Independence Day celebrations later this  month.<\/p>\n<p>Many outraged Israelis advocated that, in retaliation,  Israel acknowledge the Armenian Genocide. Dan Margalit of \u201cIsrael Hayom\u201d  newspaper accused the Turks of not only committing Genocide, but also the  \u201congoing crime, which is expressed in energetic Turkish activity to deny the  atrocity and to incite against any country and government and artist who wish to  express their horror.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Ephraim Inbar, head of the BESA Center for Strategic  Studies at Bar-Ilan University in Ramat Gan, reminded the Turks that they are  still in need of \u201cIsraeli influence in Washington to prevent the passage in  Congress of a resolution declaring the killing of Armenians during World War I a  genocide.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>In an unprecedented action, the \u201cIm Tirtzu\u201d Israeli  student movement held a protest last week in front of the Turkish Embassy in Tel  Aviv. The students displayed bloody pictures of victims of the Armenian  Genocide, handed out books on the Genocide to passersby, and carried signs  calling on Turkey to formally recognize the Genocide.<\/p>\n<p>To atone for its past sin of siding with Turkish  denialists, Israel must officially affirm the Armenian Genocide as well as  actively lobby for its recognition by other states. Israel should also permit  the erection of a monument at a prominent location to commemorate the victims of  the Armenian Genocide and reverse its long-standing ban on TV broadcast of  documentaries on this subject. It is certainly in Israel\u2019s own interest to side  with the victims of genocide rather than with its  perpetrators!<\/p>\n<p>Instead of maintaining at all cost its unholy alliance  with Turkey, Israel should earnestly pursue a peace settlement with the  Palestinians and live in peace with its Arab neighbors, thus obviating the need  to curry favors with the Turkish denialist regime.<\/p>\n<p>==================== SUBJECT RELATED E-MAIL&#8217;S RECEIVED=<\/p>\n<p>From: Ismet Takim [ismettakim@yahoo.com]<\/p>\n<p>Subject: {Pax Turcica} Our problems are just begining, l worned you all before, we play this game we will loose and guess who is happy???<\/p>\n<p>READ<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"Abo47RxRkE\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/2009\/10\/20\/turkey-exposed\/\">Turkey Exposed:<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; clip: rect(1px, 1px, 1px, 1px);\" title=\"&#8220;Turkey Exposed:&#8221; &#8212; Turkish Forum English\" src=\"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/2009\/10\/20\/turkey-exposed\/embed\/#?secret=SeSGDuPk9K#?secret=Abo47RxRkE\" data-secret=\"Abo47RxRkE\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>and any of you still have any questions about this? some of our readers here is also responsiable for this and you have no idea what we will face, you just sit and watch, pro Palestenian Turkey is comitting suicide,<\/p>\n<p>Erdogan made the biggest mistake, and some of you who posts pro<\/p>\n<p>Filistin BS, tags and articles here should be ashame of themselves<\/p>\n<p>they have done a disservice and put our mainly my efforts back in<\/p>\n<p>time, and we have to fix this now, l have to go to work again and undo some of this,<\/p>\n<p>stupid stupid stupid bird brains bleeding hearts, stop your Anti Israel stands and get real, stop hurting Turkey,<\/p>\n<p>======================================================<\/p>\n<p>F<span style=\"color: #800000;\">rom: Metin Mangir [mangir.metin@gmail.com]<br \/>\nSubject: {Pax Turcica} Are you aware of the slap to Erdogan by Obama?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">While we are all focussed on the Armenian issue (because of our<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">proxomity to the diaspora) Obama invited (!) Erdogan to come to WDC on<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">Oct 29 (with two weeks notice), following the cancellation of the joint<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">military exercises with Israel, US, and the increasing row with Israel<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">upon showing of a TV program on TRT.\u00a0 (now that Turkey has good<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">relations with Syria,\u00a0 does it not need Israel to squeeze Syria?? which<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">was what started the close military collaboration with Israel.)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">The choice of date and such short notice is VERY significant (and<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">insulting)!\u00a0 The big brother is calling the errant boy on the carpet?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">By the way, in general the news about the Armenian protocols are<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">positive in Turkey (amazing!).\u00a0 Very few voices are opposing it.\u00a0 Also<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">it has lost its luster as the &#8220;milli birlik acilimi&#8221; and the return of<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">34 people from Irak upon Ocalan&#8217;s orders has taken the center stage.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">If the borders open the real big winner will be Russia, more than<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">Armenia.\u00a0 Since (rightly) Azerbeycan will be pissed off at Turkey and<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">the West, and get closer to Russia (if it can dare to play with such<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">danger) and the West, US will loose the Caucases.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">What I do not understand is<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">1)\u00a0 how come US is willing to let this happen?\u00a0 What has Russia forced<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">upon US following Georgia?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">2) Davutoglu, who has written in three different places in his book<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">about the\u00a0 crucial importance of Azerbeycan for Turkey, is going along<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">with this protocols steps?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">Metin<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">==========================================<\/span><\/p>\n<p>From: Ergun [ergun@cox.net]<br \/>\nSubject: {Pax Turcica} Re: Are you aware of the slap to Erdogan by Obama?<\/p>\n<p>Metin,<\/p>\n<p>I suspect one major thing behind Obama&#8217;s sudden invitation:\u00a0 Afghanistan.<\/p>\n<p>He may ask for more troops from Turkey.\u00a0 Secondarily, Iraq.\u00a0 O. may discuss<\/p>\n<p>strategy with E. on the mechanics of US pull out, the vacuum in Iraq, etc.<\/p>\n<p>All have to do with US involvement in unpopular, unwanted wars that are<\/p>\n<p>draining the US economy and social life.<\/p>\n<p>Israel, Azerbaijan, Armenia, and others are little more than dressing for<\/p>\n<p>the salad.<\/p>\n<p>This is one man&#8217;s opinion.\u00a0 \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n<p>Ergun\u00a0 KIRLIKOVALI<\/p>\n<p>===================================================<\/p>\n<p>Statement\u00a0released by\u00a0National Security Council\u00a0that met today is below.\u00a0Afghanistan issue has been discussed. Turkey will resume Kabul Area Commandership for the second time.<\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Afganistan<\/em><em>&#8216;da son d\u00f6nemde meydana gelen geli\u015fmeler, Cumhurba\u015fkanl\u0131\u011f\u0131 se\u00e7imleri dahil, de\u011ferlendirilmi\u015f, \u00fclkemizin <\/em><em>Afganistan<\/em><em>&#8216;\u0131n istikrar\u0131na y\u00f6nelik katk\u0131 ve giri\u015fimlerinin s\u00fcrd\u00fcr\u00fclece\u011fi belirtilmi\u015ftir. Bu kapsamda; T\u00fcrk Silahl\u0131 Kuvvetlerinin Kabil B\u00f6lge Komutanl\u0131\u011f\u0131 g\u00f6revini Kas\u0131m 2009 ba\u015f\u0131nda ikinci defa alaca\u011f\u0131, yine \u00f6nceki g\u00f6revlerde oldu\u011fu gibi, T\u00fcrk Silahl\u0131 Kuvvetlerinin ter\u00f6rle m\u00fccadele, uyu\u015fturucu ile m\u00fccadele, may\u0131n temizleme g\u00f6revlerinde kullan\u0131lmayaca\u011f\u0131 teyit edilmi\u015ftir.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Fariz Huseynov [huseynovfa@gmail.com]<\/p>\n<p>=======================================================================<\/p>\n<p>On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:52 PM, &lt;vaslay@aol.com&gt; wrote:<\/p>\n<p>dear Ergun<\/p>\n<p>you are not alone for this opinion<\/p>\n<p>is isn&#8217;t funny while we are disgracing our man and women in uniform ( TSK)<br \/>\nObama needs our soldiers not government<\/p>\n<p>if you didn&#8217;t have one of the best army in the middle east<\/p>\n<p>O. wouldn&#8217;t care less for you<\/p>\n<p>regardas,<\/p>\n<p>vedat aslay<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<\/p>\n<p>Dear Metin<\/p>\n<p>Excellent observation and analysis<\/p>\n<p>I wonder what is going behind the close doors?<\/p>\n<p>Yes Russia it seems that \u00a0the big winner?<\/p>\n<p>how come for the US. Are we underestimating her.<\/p>\n<p>The is a big game going on over the middle east and Central  Asia.<\/p>\n<p>The player are strong and Armenia, Azerbaijan, Syria, TURKEY\u00a0 and even Israel is foot soldiers\u00a0in this game<\/p>\n<p>Obama will make sure that Erdogan is not out of step. If he is you know in military<\/p>\n<p>SOL, SAG, SOL SAG, SOL, SOL P&#8230;&#8230;. SOL<br \/>\nDon&#8217;t\u00a0worry this game is a\u00a0long game and \u00a0we are just watching part I<\/p>\n<p>Vedat Aslay\u00a0vaslay@aol.com<\/p>\n<p>========================================================<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">From: Yusif [yusif@azeris.com]<br \/>\nSubject: {Pax Turcica} Re: Are you aware of the slap to Erdogan by Obama?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">That&#8217;s correct. Russia will be a winner big time.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">First, they will close the discussion on Nabucco both restricting<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">other countries&#8217; willingness to diversify their exports and preventing<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">anything that could possibly harm Russia economically and<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">politically.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">Second, they will realize the South Stream project, always viewed as<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">an alternative to Nabucco and through that project will still control<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">southern Europe and Turkey itself.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">Third, under the pretext of protection of South Stream, Russia will<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">completely militarize Black Sea with additional Russian fleet and will<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">henceforth prevent another proposed rival energy project White Stream<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">to go from Georgia to EU through Ukraine from realization.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">Fourth, Russia will get deeper into Turkish economy through Armenia<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">and through Armenian element will be able to exert pressure on Turkey<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">and possibly other Middle Eastern states in the future. It benefits<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">Russia to see islamization of Turkey. The practice of moderate Islam<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">in the form of Gulenist ideology actually may suit Russia&#8217;s interests.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">In regards to US interests in the deal there are several factors.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">First of all, US was hoping for Russia&#8217;s support on the issues of<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">nuclear threat from Iran. In general, apart from everything else, it<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">is not in Russia&#8217;s interest to see containment and any sort of<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">democratization of Iran. There is 25 mln Azeri minority in Iran which<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">if needed could be a decisive factor in the future partition of Iran<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">or a tool to bring down the current mullah regime. That&#8217;s one of the<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">reasons Stalin was willing to and finally withdrew from Iran in 1946<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">because he did not want a more sizeable Azeri minority within Soviet<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">borders.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">Secondly, in my opinion, it&#8217;s not the US that is exerting pressure on<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">Turkey. I think it&#8217;s Turkey which is using its inadequate behavior<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">with Israel to pressure the United States. If we go back to 2003 we<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">would see that Turkey was bold enough to withstand pressure from US<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">during proposed invasion of Iraq from Turkey. To me personally, it<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">doesn&#8217;t make sense to see America give up Azerbaijan and Georgia and<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">the existing energy projects therefore losing both economically and<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">politically.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">As far as Turkey&#8217;s position about Azerbaijan is concerned, I think<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">they might have striken a deal on withdrawal of Armenian troops from 5<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">occupied regions and agreed with Russia and US on joint peacekeeping<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">mission. In any case, allowing any peacekeeping missions in Karabakh<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">would be disastrous for Azerbaijan. If Russia&#8217;s troops are allowed to<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">be stationed on Azerbaijani soil in any form, this would be the end of<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">Azerbaijani independence and goodbye to Karabakh. Experience with<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">Georgia is a good example.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">Presence of US troops would mean almost the same. Experience with<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">Kosovo is a good example. That&#8217;s why Kaidanow is all around (http:\/\/<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">www.a1plus.am\/en\/official\/2009\/10\/20\/nalbandian-tina-kaidanow)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">Presence of Turkish troops, if any, would mean nothing at all,<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">especially if the protocols are ratified and diplomatic relations<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">established and &#8216;good will of friendly&#8217; Turkish government is<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">recognized in Armenia and separatist regime in Karabakh.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">Any peacekeeping mission whatsoever would mean protraction of this<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">conflict and interim status of NK last forever, therefore ending in<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">partitioning of Azerbaijan forever.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">I guess, the original plan of these regional players is:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">1. to strike a deal, have Armenian troops withdrawn from 5 regions;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">2. bring in the peacekeeping force into those regions;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">3. ensure return of Azerbaijani refugees to those regions;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">4. re-arrange routes of energy resources from Azerbaijan and Central<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">Asia through Armenia and\/or through occupied Karabakh, as many allege;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">5. build confidence between people of the region<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">6. hold a referendum in NK. Holding a referendum in Karabakh would<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">mean complete loss.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">Opening any borders means directly benefitting Armenia economically<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">which will stimulate economy and therefore human reproduction of<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">Armenians in Karabakh. That&#8217;s when the numbers will matter.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">Yusif<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">================================================<\/span><\/p>\n<div style=\"padding-left: 5px;\">Turkey\u2019s The policy of \u201czero problems\u201d creating \u201cnew problems\u201d<\/div>\n<div style=\"padding-left: 5px;\">https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/2009\/10\/20\/turkeys-the-policy-of-zero-problems-creating-new-problems\/<\/div>\n<p><strong>From:<\/strong> Ergun [ergun@cox.net]<\/p>\n<h3>The policy of \u201czero problems\u201d with neighbors seems to be\u00a0creating \u201cnew problems\u201d with neighbors<\/h3>\n<p><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Case one:\u00a0 Azerbaijan. <\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The U.S.-Russia-mandated\u00a0protocols with murky\u00a0gains but sure losses for Turkey are already costing Turkey dearly.\u00a0 Check out these recent developments:<\/p>\n<h2>1- Azerbaijan Looks For Gas Routes To Europe Bypassing Turkey<\/h2>\n<p><strong><span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/online.wsj.com\/article\/BT-CO-20091017-701339.html\"><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em> <\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<h2>2- Azerbaijan warns Turkey, West on gas exports<\/h2>\n<p><span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/www.businessweek.com\/ap\/financialnews\/D9BCELM80.htm\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p>3- Azeri leader slams Turkey as gas route to Europe<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/www.reuters.com\/article\/marketsNews\/idUSLG44450320091016\">https:\/\/www.reuters.com\/article\/marketsNews\/idUSLG44450320091016<\/span><\/p>\n<p>4-\u00a0 Azerbaijan stops flying\u00a0the Turkish flags over the Turkish\u00a0martyrs\u2019 cemetary in Baku.<\/p>\n<p>When the U.S. and Russia (an EU) forced these protocols on Turkey, they probably expected the estrangement of Azerbaijan.\u00a0 If the\u00a0oil and gas lines from Azerbaijan to Turkey run dry, the biggest beneficary would be, you guessed it, Russia.\u00a0 Risk all you got for something in return that may or may not pan out.\u00a0 We are sold this deal as \u201cdialog, normalization, peace, and democracy\u201d package.\u00a0\u00a0Sometimes I wish\u00a0an engineer was\u00a0the leader in Turkey so that he would know simple math, as in addition and subtraction.<\/p>\n<p>April 24 is not far away.\u00a0 We will all see if the protocols bring \u201cnormalization and peace\u201d or \u201d more chaos,\u00a0polarization, and stalemate\u201d, with the net result of poorer Turkey due to weakened\/lost energy lines.\u00a0 (Prediction:\u00a0 the latter.\u00a0 Why?\u00a0 Because the deal incredibly left Azerbaijan out.\u00a0 Huge mistake!)<\/p>\n<h1><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Case two: Israel<\/span><\/h1>\n<p>This one has to do with Gaza, Lebanon, and Syria, although the tensions came to a head over other things like a cancelled joint military exercises and an aired TV-show:<\/p>\n<h2>TV Show Deepens Split Between Israel and Turkey<\/h2>\n<h3><span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/online.wsj.com\/article\/SB125573461255590957.html\">https:\/\/www.wsj.com\/articles\/SB125573461255590957<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><em> <\/em><\/p>\n<p>Turkey points to Israel to deflect from itself<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/www.examiner.com\/x-14373-Progressive-Geopolitics-Examiner%7Ey2009m10d17-Turkey-points-to-Israel-to-deflect-from-itself\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Netanyahu declares in Madrid that due to recent developments, Turkey is no longer an impartial mediator for peace talks between Syria ad Israel.<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">My take on all this:<\/span><\/strong><strong> <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I am not against dialog or peace.\u00a0 I am against poor business deals, especially if they are conducted under pressure of partisans with vested interests clashing with yours.<\/p>\n<p>The foreign policy of Turkey should be updated from \u201czero problems with neighbors\u201d to \u201czero old <strong>and new<\/strong> problems with neighbors\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Ergun KIRLIKOVALI<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Cannot Pretend to be Both Pro-Israeli and Pro-Palestinian Publisher, The California Courier Playing the skillful political games of their Ottoman predecessors, Turkey\u2019s current masters present their country under various guises &#8212; as European and Middle Eastern, Islamic and secular, pro-Arab and pro-Israeli. 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