{"id":15161,"date":"2009-10-07T02:21:36","date_gmt":"2009-10-07T00:21:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.turkishforum.com.tr\/en\/content\/?p=15161"},"modified":"2014-01-05T17:29:38","modified_gmt":"2014-01-05T15:29:38","slug":"wsj-exclusive-interview-with-turkish-pm-erdogan","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/2009\/10\/07\/wsj-exclusive-interview-with-turkish-pm-erdogan\/","title":{"rendered":"WSJ Exclusive: Interview With Turkish PM Erdogan"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!-- .hmmessage P { \tPADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px } BODY.hmmessage { \tFONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana } --><\/p>\n<div><span>06 October, 2009  03:10:00<\/span><\/div>\n<div>SABAH ENGLISH<\/div>\n<div>Capone example used to refer to Dogan<\/div>\n<div><strong>Erdogan used the example of famous American gangster Al Capone\u2019s  tax evasion incident in the 1930\u2019s, to describe the current situation with Dogan  to the Wall Street Journal.<\/strong><br \/>\n<strong><span><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u2018A ROUTINE TAX  AUDIT\u2019<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/strong><span><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;\"> <\/span><\/span><br \/>\n<span> <\/span><span><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">Prime Minister Erdogan answered questions reading the  recent five billion lira tax levy issued for media mogul Aydin Dogan for the US\u2019  prestigious newspaper, <em>The Wall Street Journal.<\/em> Erdogan went on to  state the following regarding Dogan; \u201cThis incident is simply a routine tax  investigation. The example of Al Capone may come to mind. Capone was extremely  rich, however he spent the rest of his life in  prison.\u201d<\/span><\/span><\/span><span><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;\"> <\/span><\/span><br \/>\n<span><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;\">&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..<\/span><\/span><br \/>\n<span><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;\">THE WALL STREET JOURNAL<\/span><\/span><br \/>\n<span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"color: #093d72;\">BUSINESS<\/span><\/li>\n<li><small><span style=\"color: #666666; font-size: xx-small;\">OCTOBER 5,  2009<\/span><\/small><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h1>Turkish Premier Defends Media Tax Battle<\/h1>\n<h2>A $3.2 Billion Fine Threatens Standing of the Dogan  Group<\/h2>\n<h3>By <span style=\"color: #093d72;\">MARC CHAMPION<\/span><\/h3>\n<p>ISTANBUL &#8212; Turkey&#8217;s Prime Minister  Recep Tayyip Erdogan defended his government&#8217;s crippling $3.2 billion demand in  fines and penalties against the country&#8217;s largest media business, comparing the  case with the U.S. pursuit of gangster Al Capone on tax-evasion charges in the  1930s.<br \/>\nMr. Erdogan, interviewed Sunday at the elegant waterside offices that  serve as the government&#8217;s home when in Istanbul, also said his country had  resolved its dispute with the International Monetary Fund over the fund&#8217;s demand  he should make Turkey&#8217;s tax authority independent. He said he would like to see  a new IMF program for Turkey agreed &#8220;soon.&#8221;<br \/>\nMarek Belka, director of the  IMF&#8217;s Europe department, declined to comment. Turkey is hosting the annual  meeting of the IMF and the World Bank in Istanbul this week.<\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div id=\"ecxarticleThumbnail_1\">\n<div>\n<div>\n<div><a>View Full Image<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/s.wsj.net\/public\/resources\/images\/NA-BA973_ERDOGA_D_20091004172405.jpg\" border=\"0\" alt=\"Erdogan\" hspace=\"0\" width=\"262\" height=\"174\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<p><cite>Agence France-Presse\/Getty  Images<\/cite>Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan and his  wife, Emine, arrive at the convention of his Justice and Development party in  Ankara on Saturday.<\/div>\n<div id=\"ecxarticleImage_1\" style=\"visibility: hidden;\">\n<div>\n<div><a><\/a><\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/s.wsj.net\/public\/resources\/images\/NA-BA973_ERDOGA_G_20091004172405.jpg\" border=\"0\" alt=\"Erdogan\" hspace=\"0\" width=\"553\" height=\"369\" \/><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div id=\"ecxarticlevideo_2\">\n<div id=\"ecxvideodiv_80495\">\n<div>\n<div><span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/online.wsj.com\/article\/SB125469621389762827.html#\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" title=\"http:\/\/online.wsj.com\/article\/SB125469621389762827.html#\" src=\"http:\/\/m.wsj.net\/video\/20091005\/100509erdogan\/100509erdogan_115x65.jpg\" alt=\"video\" width=\"115\" height=\"65\" \/><span title=\"http:\/\/online.wsj.com\/article\/SB125469621389762827.html#\"> <\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<h3><span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/online.wsj.com\/article\/SB125469621389762827.html#\"><span><span style=\"color: #093d72;\">WSJ  Exclusive: Interview With Turkish PM Erdogan<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/h3>\n<p><small>5:22<\/small>In an exclusive interview, Turkey&#8217;s Prime Minister  Recep Tayyip Erdogan discusses Iran&#8217;s nuclear aspirations, Israel and the  ongoing border dispute with Armenia.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>Mr.  Erdogan also challenged the intense focus on checking Iran&#8217;s nuclear-fuel  program, saying it wasn&#8217;t the biggest problem in the Middle East. And he said he  was certain Turkey and Armenia would sign an agreement to reopen their closed  border and establish diplomatic relations on Oct. 10, provided Armenia doesn&#8217;t  alter the text.<br \/>\nThe tax case against Dogan Yayin Holding AS &#8212; which owns  roughly half the television and newspaper market in Turkey &#8212; has drawn concern  at home and abroad. Days after a $2.5 billion fine was announced last month, the  European Commission in Brussels expressed &#8220;serious concerns&#8221; over the  implications for press freedom in Turkey and said it would include the incident  in its report later this month on progress in Turkey&#8217;s talks to join the  European Union. The Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe also has  expressed concern.<br \/>\n&#8220;The issue here is of a routine tax examination,&#8221; Mr.  Erdogan said. &#8220;In the U.S., too, there are people who have had problems with  evading taxes. Al Capone comes to mind. He was very rich but then he spent the  rest of his life in jail. &#8230; Nobody raised a voice when those events  happened.&#8221;<br \/>\n&#8220;There are no legal grounds for these tax [demands], they are  baseless,&#8221; said a senior executive at the Dogan group, who asked not to be  named. He said the Dogan group had been singled for attention out after the  media group published stories alleging corruption in fundraising for the ruling  party. He said 30 tax inspectors had been at the group&#8217;s offices for a year  since, combing through its books.<br \/>\nBy the end of this week, Turkey&#8217;s finance  ministry is due to decide on whether to insist on its decision that Dogan group  provide $3.2 billion in collateral, the full amount of the fine plus interest  and penalties to date, while the group appeals the fine in court.<br \/>\nThe senior  Dogan executive said the company would file for a court injunction if the  finance ministry stuck to its demand. If it were implemented, &#8220;We would be  inoperative; we&#8217;d be out of the picture,&#8221; the executive added.<br \/>\nMr. Erdogan  said the Dogan group can challenge the fine in court and has already settled one  tax-evasion case out of court, related to its petroleum business Petrol Ofisi.  Asked if it was acceptable for the government to demand collateral that would  collapse the company before the case reaches court, Mr. Erdogan said the court  might issue an injunction, or the group could settle first.<br \/>\nHe bristled at  the comparison some critics have drawn between his government&#8217;s pursuit of Dogan  group and the Russian government&#8217;s bankrupting of oil company Yukos with  back-tax charges, under then-President Vladimir Putin.<br \/>\n&#8220;I find it to be very  ugly, very improper. I think those words have been expressed by some people from  the Dogan group, like the daughters of [chairman Aydin] Dogan,&#8221; Mr. Erdogan  said. He described the charges as &#8220;disrespectful&#8221; to both himself and Mr. Putin  as elected leaders.<br \/>\nMr. Erdogan said the case against the Dogan group was  part of a broad government policy aimed at cleaning up Turkey&#8217;s large  underground economy and bringing it onto the books. That is the same reason for  which he said he had resisted the IMF&#8217;s request to depoliticize the tax  authorities. &#8220;We need to work hand in hand,&#8221; with the tax service in that  effort, he said.<br \/>\nEarlier this year, Dogan group was hit with a $500 million  fine in connection with the sale of a minority stake in its television unit to  <span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/online.wsj.com\/public\/quotes\/main.html?type=djn&amp;symbol=SPR.XE\"><span style=\"color: #093d72;\">Axel Springer<\/span><\/span> AG, of Germany. A $2.5 billion fine came  Sept. 8, this time for unpaid taxes sales of shares within the group.<br \/>\nThe  Dogan executive said the transactions were aimed at unwinding cross ownership  within the group, to make units more attractive to outside buyers, and weren&#8217;t  tax liable.<br \/>\nLate last month, the finance ministry told the group it had 15  days to provide collateral for the fine, plus penalties and interest, amounting  to $3.2 billion in total. That deadline expires Friday, the Dogan executive  said. The group is now in talks to sell its stake in Petrol Ofisi to its  partner, Austria&#8217;s OMV AG, to help cover the fines.<br \/>\nThe Dogan group gets  little sympathy in Turkey, said Soli \u00d6zel, a prominent columnist with Habert\u00fcrk,  an independent daily. That&#8217;s because the group used its media and connections to  further its business interests in the past. Still, &#8220;this is ultimately about  shutting up all sources of opposition, and you cannot have a democracy like  that,&#8221; said Mr. \u00d6zel.<br \/>\n&#8220;We have never been against freedom of the press,&#8221; said  Mr. Erdogan.<br \/>\nThe prime minister&#8217;s Justice and Development, or AK, party came  to power in 2001, challenging the secular elite &#8212; including Mr. Dogan &#8212; that  had long run Turkey. Though the AK party triggered concerns among some with its  Islamist roots, in government it has pursued economic and other reforms that  opened the way to membership talks with the EU and created the kind of  macroeconomic stability long lacking in Turkey.<br \/>\nDespite a sharp drop in  growth in the first quarter, Turkey appears to have weathered the financial  crisis relatively well. Whereas IMF programs negotiated for some other countries  in emerging Europe are about &#8220;preventing collapse, that&#8217;s not the case in  Turkey,&#8221; said Mr. Belka. A facility would instead aim to boost growth by freeing  credit for use in the private sector.<br \/>\n<strong>Write to <\/strong>Marc Champion  at <span style=\"color: #093d72;\">marc.champion@wsj.com<\/span><br \/>\n<\/span><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>06 October, 2009 03:10:00 SABAH ENGLISH Capone example used to refer to Dogan Erdogan used the example of famous American gangster Al Capone\u2019s tax evasion incident in the 1930\u2019s, to describe the current situation with Dogan to the Wall Street Journal. \u2018A ROUTINE TAX AUDIT\u2019 Prime Minister Erdogan answered questions reading the recent five billion [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":83,"featured_media":783695,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[846,89],"tags":[1328],"class_list":["post-15161","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-business","category-turkey","tag-secularism"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/15161","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/83"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=15161"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/15161\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/783695"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=15161"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=15161"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=15161"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}