{"id":14276,"date":"2009-08-18T05:03:17","date_gmt":"2009-08-18T03:03:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.turkishforum.com.tr\/en\/content\/?p=14276"},"modified":"2009-08-18T05:03:17","modified_gmt":"2009-08-18T03:03:17","slug":"matthew-bryza%e2%80%99s-plans-for-artsakh-formula-for-disaster-for-armenians","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/2009\/08\/18\/matthew-bryza%e2%80%99s-plans-for-artsakh-formula-for-disaster-for-armenians\/","title":{"rendered":"Matthew Bryza\u2019s Plans for Artsakh:  Formula for Disaster for Armenians"},"content":{"rendered":"<table border=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\">\n<p class=\"NormalWeb1\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 14pt;\"><\/span><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.5pt;\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"NormalWeb1\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.5pt;\"> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-14277\" title=\"sassun-21\" src=\"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/08\/sassun-21.jpg\" alt=\"sassun-21\" width=\"300\" height=\"327\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/08\/sassun-21.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/08\/sassun-21-275x300.jpg 275w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"NormalWeb1\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.5pt;\">By Harut  Sassounian<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"NormalWeb1\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.5pt;\">Publisher, The California  Courier<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"NormalWeb1\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.5pt;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"NormalWeb1\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.5pt;\">Matthew Bryza, the U.S. mediator  for Artsakh (Karabagh), discussed in great detail for the first time the  critical issues dealing with the behind the scene negotiations on resolving that  conflict.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"NormalWeb1\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.5pt;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"NormalWeb1\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.5pt;\">Mr. Bryza is the U.S. Co-Chair of  the Minsk Group and Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for European and  Eurasian Affairs. He delivered a speech on the Artsakh conflict at the  International Center for Human Rights in Tsakhkadzor, Armenia, on August 7. Mr.  Bryza\u2019s lengthy presentation, followed by an extensive question and answer  period (19 pages), was transcribed by NEWS.am Armenian news  agency.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"NormalWeb1\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.5pt;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"NormalWeb1\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.5pt;\">While Mr. Bryza has regularly met  with members of the media during his frequent visits to Armenia and Azerbaijan,  often recanting in Yerevan what he reportedly said in Baku, he has never before  disclosed the details of the settlement\u00a0being negotiated between the presidents  of the two conflicting countries and the three Co-Chairs of the Minsk Group,  composed of France, Russia, and the United States.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"NormalWeb1\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.5pt;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"NormalWeb1\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.5pt;\">The Armenian public certainly  appreciates Mr. Bryza\u2019s willingness to discuss the terms of a future agreement  on the Artsakh conflict. Nevertheless, one wonders why was Mr. Bryza in such a  talkative mood? Was he preparing the Armenian public for the painful compromises  that are to be made or was he trying to impress his Washington superiors with  his negotiating skills, as he is being considered for an ambassadorial post in  Baku?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"NormalWeb1\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.5pt;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"NormalWeb1\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.5pt;\">Mr. Bryza began his remarks by  stating that the negotiations for the settlement of the Artsakh conflict are  based on the three fundamental principles of the Helsinki Final Act:  Self-determination, territorial integrity, and non-use of  force.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"NormalWeb1\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.5pt;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"NormalWeb1\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.5pt;\">Claiming that the Presidents of  Armenia and Azerbaijan &#8220;right now are on the verge of a breakthrough,&#8221; an  assertion he has made many times before, Mr. Bryza proceeded to disclose a  highly controversial roadmap of the agreement currently under consideration. Mr.  Bryza stated that Artsakh would preserve its current status for an &#8220;interim  period.&#8221; Armenians would then turn over to Azerbaijan most of the &#8220;seven  territories&#8221; surrounding Artsakh. After the Azeri refugees who left Artsakh  during the war return to their homes, a referendum would be held to determine  the final status of Artsakh.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"NormalWeb1\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.5pt;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"NormalWeb1\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.5pt;\">During the question and answer  period, Mr. Bryza stated that the Minsk Group Co-Chairs were disappointed that  during their July 17 meeting in Moscow, Presidents Sargsyan and Aliyev did not  come to an agreement &#8220;on several of the final elements of the basic principles,&#8221;  despite the fact that, during their January meeting in Zurich, they had &#8220;agreed  on the basic concepts.&#8221; He said he expected an agreement in September &#8220;on the  last few elements of the basic principles that remain not yet  agreed.&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"NormalWeb1\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.5pt;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"NormalWeb1\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.5pt;\">When asked if Azerbaijan was  making any compromises, Mr. Bryza pointed out Baku\u2019s\u00a0increasingly accommodating  position on the Lachin Corridor which links Artsakh to Armenia, its concern for  the security of Artsakh Armenians and their need to run their own affairs. Mr.  Bryza further claimed that &#8220;Azerbaijan had to give up quite a bit from a  position where it was in the beginning when it said it will never talk about  self-determination. And, of course, to bring Azerbaijan to that point, Armenia  had to give something up as well\u2026. So, both sides are making  compromises.&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"NormalWeb1\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.5pt;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"NormalWeb1\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.5pt;\">Mr. Bryza defended the  non-recognition of Artsakh by the United States, by pointing out that the  government of Armenia has not recognized it either. He said that the reason  Armenia does not recognize Artsakh&#8217;s independence is that \u201cit knows that if it  does that, the chances to negotiate a peaceful settlement  finish.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"NormalWeb1\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.5pt;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"NormalWeb1\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.5pt;\">In response to a complaint from  the audience that Artsakh was left out of the negotiations, Mr. Bryza blamed its  absence on the Kocharian government. &#8220;Until 1998, Karabakh Armenians were  formally part of the negotiations, when it was the former government of Armenia  who decided to change that situation. It was not the Co-Chairs who made the  decision &#8212; that was the government of Armenia,&#8221; he said. Mr. Bryza did not  mention the fact that Azerbaijan had rejected Artsakh\u2019s inclusion in the  talks.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"NormalWeb1\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.5pt;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"NormalWeb1\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.5pt;\">Responding to another question,  Mr. Bryza made the surprising disclosure that the international peacekeeping  troops to be stationed in or around Artsakh would not be armed, simply because  they would not be able to compel the two sides not to fight, if they are intent  on going to war against each other. He stated that &#8220;the Co-Chairs have to be  smart and skillful enough to put at place a settlement in which the  international peacekeepers will be primarily observers.&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"NormalWeb1\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.5pt;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"NormalWeb1\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.5pt;\">Mr. Bryza candidly told his  Armenian audience not to trust the international peacekeepers to secure the  peace in Artsakh. He also stated that a &#8220;legally binding&#8221; referendum to  determine the status of Artsakh would be held in several years, after the  original Azerbaijani inhabitants, who before the war constituted 20% of the  territory\u2019s population, would return to Artsakh.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"NormalWeb1\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.5pt;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"NormalWeb1\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.5pt;\">Mr. Bryza concluded by urging  Armenians to accept &#8220;a compromise settlement now,&#8221; warning that &#8220;a decade ago,  Armenia was in a much stronger negotiation position!&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"NormalWeb1\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.5pt;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"NormalWeb1\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.5pt;\">The terms of the possible  settlement, as outlined by Mr. Bryza, is a disaster waiting to happen to  Armenians. They are supposed to first turn over to Azerbaijan practically all of  the territories surrounding Artsakh. Then the former Azeri inhabitants of  Artsakh are to return, after which a referendum would be held on the status of  Artsakh, under the watchful eyes of UNARMED international peacekeepers. If  Azerbaijan, at a future date, uses its massive petrodollars to acquire  sophisticated weaponry and invade Artsakh, particularly after Armenians have  given up the buffer zones they are currently holding, the population of Artsakh  risks being completely destroyed.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"NormalWeb1\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.5pt;\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"NormalWeb1\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.5pt;\">From  the Armenian point of view, the only acceptable solution to the Artsakh conflict  would be to either maintain the status quo or to agree to a package deal that  would require\u00a0Azerbaijan\u2019s recognition of Artsakh\u2019s independence and the  establishment of a demilitarized zone on the Azeri side of the border, before  giving up a single inch of land or allowing the return of a single Azeri  refugee!<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 13.5pt;\"><\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>By Harut Sassounian Publisher, The California Courier Matthew Bryza, the U.S. mediator for Artsakh (Karabagh), discussed in great detail for the first time the critical issues dealing with the behind the scene negotiations on resolving that conflict. 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