{"id":14091,"date":"2009-08-09T04:08:39","date_gmt":"2009-08-09T02:08:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.turkishforum.com.tr\/en\/content\/?p=14091"},"modified":"2023-07-26T11:49:35","modified_gmt":"2023-07-26T08:49:35","slug":"turkish-pow-treatment-by-the-british","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/2009\/08\/09\/turkish-pow-treatment-by-the-british\/","title":{"rendered":"Turkish POW Treatment by the British"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.tallarmeniantale.com\/pics\/book-Katran-Kazaninda-Sterilize.JPG\" border=\"0\" alt=\"Katran Kazaninda Sterilize book cover\" width=\"136\" height=\"216\" \/><\/p>\n<p>CLAIM 1<br \/>\nFrom the book &#8220;Katran KazanInda Sterilize&#8221; (&#8220;Sterilized in Tar<br \/>\nCauldron&#8221;) by Imge Publications, written by Ahmet Duru who revealed<br \/>\nthe diary of the sub-lieutenant Ahmet Altinay from Karaman&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;In WWI, 150 thousand of our soldiers were captured by the British.<br \/>\nAnd some of these soldiers were imprisoned in Seydibesir Useray-i<br \/>\nHarbiye Camp \u00a0near the city of Alexandria in Egypt. The full name of<br \/>\nthe camp was &#8220;Seydibesir Kuveysna Osmanli Useray-i Harbiye (4) Kampi&#8221;.<br \/>\nIn this camp, the Ottoman soldiers of 16th Division&#8217;s 48th Regiment<br \/>\nwho were captured at the Palestine fronts in 1918 were interned. For<br \/>\ntwo years until June 12th, 1920, they were subjected to any kind of<br \/>\ntorture, oppression, heavy insults and humiliation.<\/p>\n<p>The reason for this inhumane treatment was the Armenians. The war was<br \/>\nover. Nevertheless, to release the soldiers besides the ones who died<br \/>\nbecause of heavy conditions in the camp was not to the benefit of the<br \/>\nBritish. Because the British were brainwashed by Armenians, being told<br \/>\nthat in a potential new war they could come up against these soldiers<br \/>\nagain. The solution was massacre&#8230;<br \/>\nOur soldiers, forced by bayonets, were put in disinfection pools with<br \/>\nthe excuse of wiping out germs. But the chemical, krizol, was added a<br \/>\nlot more than normal in the water. Even just when they put their feet,<br \/>\nour soldiers got scalded. However, the British troops didn&#8217;t let them<br \/>\nget out of the pool by threatening with rifles.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.tallarmeniantale.com\/pics\/Turkish-Prisoners-of-War.JPG\" border=\"0\" alt=\"Turkish POWs, 1917\" width=\"437\" height=\"382\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Our soldiers didn&#8217;t want to put their heads under the water that<br \/>\nreached waist level. But then the British started shooting in the air.<br \/>\nOur soldiers knelt and put their heads under water not to die.<br \/>\nBut the ones who got their heads out of the water couldn&#8217;t see any<br \/>\nmore. Because the eyes were burned&#8230;The resistance of our soldiers who<br \/>\nsaw what happened to the ones that got out was no use and our 15<br \/>\nthousand men got blinded.<\/p>\n<p>This savagery was discussed in May 25th, 1921, in the Turkish Great<br \/>\nNational Assembly. The congressmen Mr. Faik and Mr. Seref proposed<br \/>\nthat 15 thousand sons of this country were blinded in Egypt by being<br \/>\nput in the &#8220;krizol&#8221; pool; and wanted the Assembly to make an attempt<br \/>\nfor punishment of the British physicians, commanders and soldiers who<br \/>\nwere guilty of this act.<\/p>\n<p>Of course the newly founded government had a thousand other problems.<br \/>\nDemanding an explanation for this act was easily forgotten.<\/p>\n<p>The British commanders of the camp, because of the wrong, mendacious<br \/>\ntranslations and provocations of Armenian translators who knew<br \/>\nTurkish, had become fierce Turk enemies.<\/p>\n<p>COUNTER CLAIM<br \/>\nThe British run PoW camps in Egypt were regularly inspected by the<br \/>\ndiplomatic representatives of neutral countries and by the<br \/>\nInternational Committee of the Red Cross<br \/>\nSidi Bishr Camp (Seydibesir Useray-i Harbiye Camp) was visited on 6th<br \/>\nJanuary 1917 and the report on that visit can be read in chapter 7,<br \/>\nhere<br \/>\nBryn<\/p>\n<p>CLAIM 2<br \/>\nThe other claim made by Y\u00fccel Yan\u0131kda\u011f in his unpublished PhD thesis<br \/>\nIll-fated Sons of the Nation: Ottoman Prisoners of War in Russia and<br \/>\nEgypt, 1914-1922 makes the claim that the British authorities<br \/>\ndeliberately infected Turkish POWs with Pellagra. This particular<br \/>\nstory is also doing the rounds of the &#8220;British plot to kill Turks<br \/>\ninspired by Armenian&#8221; circuit and has equal credibility.<\/p>\n<p>COUNTER CLAIM<br \/>\nThe nub of the Pellagra claim is that the British deliberately singled<br \/>\nout the Turks for ill treatment by inadequate diet leading to the<br \/>\nex-POWs having the highest death rate from Pellagra amongst all the<br \/>\nother prisoners. On the basis of the death rate, it was concluded that<br \/>\nPellagra was a deliberate policy. That Turkish POWs died in great<br \/>\nnumbers from Pellagra is well documented in British sources. However,<br \/>\nthis churlish complaint does not mention that Pellagra takes 5-6 years<br \/>\nto manifest itself into a fatal condition. No Turkish POW spent that<br \/>\nlong in their incarceration leading to the conclusion that these men<br \/>\nsuffered from Pellagra prior to becoming a POW. It wasn&#8217;t until the<br \/>\nmid 1920&#8217;s that it was discovered that Pellagra was due to dietary<br \/>\nproblems.<\/p>\n<p>CLAIM 3<br \/>\nCholera \u00a0at Berramke Barracks in Damascus \u00a0was deliberate to kill Turks.<\/p>\n<p>COUNTER CLAIM<br \/>\nA search of the Australian archives &#8211; every single available file<br \/>\nrelating to POWs is very much available and they provide information<br \/>\nwith the good and the bad. Nothing is covered up. The worst case<br \/>\nregarded the 12,000 Ottoman soldiers who surrendered at the Berramke<br \/>\nBarracks in Damascus after its fall on 1 October 1918. These men were<br \/>\ndeserted by their own support teams and left to fend for themselves<br \/>\nwithout any resources with neither food nor medicines. After a few<br \/>\ndays being held as POWs, cholera broke out amongst this group. Over a<br \/>\ntwo week period many hundreds of men died through cholera, the worst<br \/>\nday recording over 150 deaths. By dint of hard work, the POWs were put<br \/>\nto work to provide a satisfactory sanitation and drinking water<br \/>\nsystem. Some men had to be coerced into working towards the common<br \/>\ngood. The result &#8211; cholera was brought under control. The deaths from<br \/>\ncholera did not only effect the Turks but also the Australian, Indian,<br \/>\nFrench and British soldiers in the area with many of these troops also<br \/>\ndying.<\/p>\n<p>So the cholera outbreak at Damascus was not a sinister British plot to<br \/>\nkill Turks, it was a problem brought on by the neglect of the Turkish<br \/>\ncommand for the health of their soldiers and citizens in Damascus. The<br \/>\nordinary soldier in both the Allied forces and the Turkish army paid a<br \/>\nhigh price for this neglect.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>CLAIM 1 From the book &#8220;Katran KazanInda Sterilize&#8221; (&#8220;Sterilized in Tar Cauldron&#8221;) by Imge Publications, written by Ahmet Duru who revealed the diary of the sub-lieutenant Ahmet Altinay from Karaman&#8230; &#8220;In WWI, 150 thousand of our soldiers were captured by the British. And some of these soldiers were imprisoned in Seydibesir Useray-i Harbiye Camp \u00a0near [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":83,"featured_media":783745,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[4259,2101],"class_list":["post-14091","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-armenian-question","tag-ataturk-features","tag-ottoman-empire"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14091","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/83"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=14091"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14091\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/783745"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=14091"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=14091"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishnews.com\/en\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=14091"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}